[b-hebrew] Daniel 9:25

Steve Miller smille10 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 5 17:45:29 EDT 2006


"maschiach" can refer to a high priest, but "maschiach nageed" makes it
clear that this is not a Levitical priest. Also, the time constraint does
not work as pointed out by Harold.
-Steve
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lisbeth S. Fried
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:26 PM
> To: 'B-Hebrew'
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 9:25
> 
> Dear All,
> You're forgetting the high priest, always the anointed leader of his
> people.
> (e.g. Lev. 8:12).
> It is probably Onias III or Simon II (the one described in Ben Sira).
> Simon
> II is credited with restoring Jerusalem. Onias III is cut off and has
> nothing.
> The troops destroying the sanctuary are those of Antiochus IV.
> Liz Fried
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Miller
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:15 PM
> > To: 'Yonah Mishael'; 'B-Hebrew'
> > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yonah Mishael Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006
> > >
> > > Translating נגיד as "prince" has also led to Christians translating
> > > 9:25 of Daniel as "Messiah the Prince," although משיח נגיד would maybe
> > > better be understood as "an anointed ruler" (indefinite) or "an
> > > exalted anointed one" (if נגיד be understood as the adjective
> > > modifying משיח).
> > >
> > > What do you make of this?
> > >
> > > Yonah
> > >
> > Yes, Yonah, I agree with you on the meaning of nageed as ruler. In Dan.
> > 9:25, who could "mashiach nageed" refer to? The words "mashiach nageed"
> > could refer to Cyrus, or an anointed leader of Israel, or to the
> promised
> > Messiah. The verse says that "mashiach nageed" is to come either 49 yrs
> or
> > 693 years after the word to restore and build Jerusalem. This couldn't
> be
> > Cyrus because the word to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Cyrus
> > (and later Persian kings). Neither was there an outstanding anointed
> ruler
> > of Israel meeting this time criteria. Thus "maschiach nageed" in
> Dan.9:25
> > must mean the Messiah.
> > -Steve Miller
> > Detroit
> > www.voiceinwilderness.info
> >
> >
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