[b-hebrew] Nun-Tav-Vet root

Isaac Fried if at math.bu.edu
Mon Nov 20 17:24:47 EST 2006


I am sorry. My previous message sent from a MAC seems to be directionally
misaligned. I am resending it from a PC.

The root נתב (NTB) is but a variant of the root נצב (NTZAB), 'erect.' The
spatial sense of this extension is not revealed to us by the conciseness of
the tri-literal root. In fact, the extension of נתיב is at once upward,
widthwise, and lengthwise. מעגל=מה+עגל is a variant of גל, 'wave, mound'.
The root עגל (AGL) appears also in the form עקל (AKL), with גל=קל.
Isaac Fried   

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The root נתב (NTB) is but a variant of the root נצב (NTZAB),  
'erect.' The spatial sense of this extension is not revealed to us by  
the conciseness of the tri-literal root. In fact, the extension of  
נתיב is at once upward, widthwise, and lengthwise. מעגל=מה 
+עגל is a variant of גל, 'wave, mound'. The root עגל (AGL)  
appears also in the form עקל (AKL), with גל=קל.
Isaac Fried
On Nov 20, 2006, at 3:22 PM, K Randolph wrote:

> Chris:
>
> This root is not found in Tanakh. The noun, נתיבה or נתיב  
> refers to a
> "way, direction one should go, (by)way"
>
> Other words include ארח a way for travelers going from city to  
> city,
> דרך path, not for wagons, מסלה highway, an embanked road  
> suitable for
> wheeled traffic, מעגל cowpath (from עגל calf)? or rutted  
> track (from
> עגל circular)?  hard walkway (hardened by many people treading on  
> it),
> שׁוק city street, lined with shops.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On 11/20/06, Chris and Nel <wattswestmaas at eircom.net> wrote:
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> While this root according to Gesenius and Davidson has the  
>> signification of
>> Treading, Trampling; I read also that the Arabic refers to a path  
>> that is
>> elevated, (like maybe a royal pathway).  However they say that the  
>> Nun? can
>> not refer to this (by that I have absolutely no idea what he is  
>> talking
>> about).  But since we have the word root: Dalet Resh Qaf meaning  
>> precisely
>> the same I wonder whether or not the former root has something  
>> 'extra' or a
>> 'subtler shade' in its meaning?
>>
>> Can anyone elaborate please?
>>
>> Thankyou,
>> Chris,
>> Ireland.
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