[b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37

Bryant J. Williams III bjwvmw at com-pair.net
Mon Nov 20 14:24:12 EST 2006


Dear Peter,

Thank you for the link. Interesting choices. Actually, what may be a better
choice to indicate the differences between Hebrew and Greek is the terms
TORAH and NOMOS and BeRiTH and DIAQHKH.

Karen J. Jones and Moises Silva, *Invitation to the Septuagint*, page 88,
Chapter 4, Subsection, From One Language to Another, Linguistic Challenges,
"The Hebrew word TORAH is an example of a word with a fairly broad sense but
translated by a Greek  word with a narrower sense, NOMOS (both terms have
usually been translated into English as 'law'). The Hebrew word TORAH,
however, is used to refer to the whole body of biblical instruction, which
certainly includes the commandments and statutes of the Pentateuch, but also
much more. The Greek word NOMOS, in the period the Greek translation was
made, had a sense faitly close to that of the English "law." According to
Charles H. Dodd, it referred to the legal statutes and codes by which good
Greek citizens lived. By choosing to translate the Hebrew word TORAH with
the Greek word NOMOS, the translators introduced and understanding of
biblical instruction in the Hellenistic period that focused on the normative
regulations of religious life. Dodd summarizes the relationship between
these words as follows: '[TORAH]' in its widest sense means divine teaching
or revelation; [NOMOS] in its widest sense means a principle of life or
action. When divine teaching is of the nature of commandments regulating
conduct, and when the principle of life is conceived as dictated by a
legislative authority, then [NOMOS] and [TORAH] have approximately identical
meaning.' Therefore, the choice of equivalents words in translation
introduces some element of interpretation."

On page 92, reference is made to Hebrew, BeRiTH, versus Greek word, DIAQHKH,
in which the Hebrew word is consistently translated by the Greek word.

Your turn:)))

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Kirk" <peter at qaya.org>
To: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw at com-pair.net>
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of
Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37


> On 20/11/2006 17:29, Bryant J. Williams III wrote:
> > Dear Karl & Peter,
> >
> > Please give examples.
> >
> >
> I gave examples earlier: Psalm 32:9, "daughter of Zion", 'APPAYIM, HARON
> 'AP.
>
> But for some reason I didn't receive a copy of my own posting about
> this. But it is in the archives,
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2006-November/030784.html.
>
>
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