[b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?

Read, James C K0434995 at kingston.ac.uk
Fri Aug 5 10:14:05 EDT 2005


Yitzhak wrote:
 Note that the term "Chronicler" is
generally reserved
for the author of Chronicles (for obvious reasons).
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And who did you think I was talking about?

Yitzhak also wrote:
You might be confused because your translation mistakenly has "when
one incited"
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Yes. The translation is pragmatic and probably largely influenced by the 
larger context of the situation which the 'chronicler' throws more light 
on.
However, linguistically, there is no conclusive evidence that the subject 
of the verb is Yah's anger. This is only one interpretation, which is logically
inferred by the presence of an explicit subject in the first clause.
However, this interpretation is largely influenced by our modern understanding 
and usage of language and does not take into account the finer points of ancient
expression which we are not in a position to be experts on.
The chronicler, however, was in such a position and clearly did not understand 
Yah's anger to be the subject of the verb.
However, he does acknowledge the ambiguity and clears up this ambiguity by making 
the subject explicit to us.



-----Original Message-----
From: Yitzhak Sapir [mailto:yitzhaksapir at gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 8/5/2005 2:42 PM
To: Read, James C
Cc: Peter Kirk; b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?
 
On 8/5/05, Read, James C  wrote:
> Yah got angry because David obeyed him?????

You might be confused because your translation mistakenly has "when
one incited"
whereas the verb is clearly "and he incited".  So first God got angry,
then he incited.
The waw clearly denotes a series of actions that happen in series, unlike "when"
which suggests that the two actions happened in parallel or in fact,
that the first
action happened after the second.  If it wanted to say "when one
incited", the Bible
would have had: "wdwd hwst ..."  Note that the term "Chronicler" is
generally reserved
for the author of Chronicles (for obvious reasons).

Yitzhak Sapir

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