[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53: in his death?

Harold R. Holmyard III hholmyard at ont.com
Wed May 19 11:22:28 EDT 2004


Dear Vadim,

>  > HH: Some interpreters suggest that wickedness and richness are often
>  associated together, such as in the Prophets.

>Tanakh NEVER associates rich and evil. This association is a socialist
>invention. Even Jesus does not: recall that he suggested to the young man
>distributing his property as a way to perfection, not of avoiding evil. He
>suggested this only after the fellow said he wants to be even more good than
>he is know, and at first Jesus conceded that the commandments' observance is
>sufficient.

HH: Scripture does not assert that to be rich is 
to be evil, if that's what you mean. The Lord 
makes people rich:

1Sam. 2:7 The LORD sends poverty and wealth; He humbles and He exalts.

HH: But the Prophets show that it is often the 
rich who are oppressing the poor and taking their 
belongings:

Jer. 5:27 Like cages full of birds, their houses 
are full of deceit; they have become rich and 
powerful
Mic. 6:12 Her rich men are violent; her people 
are liars and their tongues speak deceitfully.
Zech. 11:5 Their buyers slaughter them and go 
unpunished. Those who sell them say,  'Praise the 
LORD, I am rich!' Their own shepherds do not 
spare them.

Is. 5:7 The vineyard of the LORD Almighty is the 
house of Israel, and the men of Judah are the 
garden of his delight. And he looked for justice, 
but saw bloodshed; for righteousness, but heard 
cries of distress.
Is. 5:8 Woe to you who add house to house and 
join field to field till no space is left and you 
live alone in the land.
Is. 5:9 ¶ The LORD Almighty has declared in my 
hearing:  "Surely the great houses will become 
desolate, the fine mansions left without 
occupants. 

The NT also suggests that they had a tendency to persecute the believers:

James 2:6 But you have insulted the poor. Is it 
not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not 
the ones who are dragging you into court?

				Yours,
				Harold Holmyard





>
>Tanakh criticizes greed, evil riches, but NEVER rich as a class in Marxist
>sense. In ancient society, it was honorable to be rich.
>
>>He was assigned with the rich in his death because he had not
>done violence and there was no deceit in his mouth.<
>It's a joke, right? He was executed for a crime, but because he had done no
>crime, buried honorably?
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Vadim Cherny
>
>  > HH: Some interpreters suggest that wickedness and richness are often
>  > associated together, such as in the Prophets. But others object that
>>  when it comes to burials, being with the rich implies a good burial.
>>  So they take the verse to describe a two-stage assignment. It was
>>  intended that the person be buried with the wicked, but when he
>>  actually died he was put with the rich. "In his death" comes to have
>>  a sequential force. The reason would then be given in the following
>>  clause. He was assigned with the rich in his death because he had not
>>  done violence and there was no deceit in his mouth.
>>
>>  Yours,
>>  Harold Holmyard
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