[b-hebrew] The island of Tyre

VC vadim_lv at center-tv.net
Thu Jun 10 10:47:20 EDT 2004


If Tyre was an island, so be it, although I was doubtful about it. I still
don't think that such a huge mole could be accomplished so fast as required
by Alexandrian hypothesis.
BTW, not attempting to venture into the area I don't know about, let me
recall uncertainties that geologists have about the Bahamas street and
various Japanese underwater sites, whether they are man-made or artificial.
As far as I understood from cursory acquaintance with the subject,
archeologists tend to believe such formations are artificial, while
geologists assert they are natural. Considering the colossal and seemingly
unnecessary (it was easier to build several hundred simple boats than the
mole for the attack) effort involved in the construction, I'm still
uncertain about the causeway.

But the funny thing is that we got distracted on the issue of Tyre. The
question was whether iim are islands. Then Reinier suggested that Tyre is
"i" and, if I recall correctly, that it proves application of iim to
coastline. If Tyre was an island, it is yet another argument against the
translation as coastline.

And for Isaiah, iim in all probability was something different from the
nearby Tyre, more probably a group of islands.


Best regards,

Vadim


> I thought that we might have a scoop here, if we could prove that the
> "Alexandrian mole" is a myth. So I speant a couple of hours in the
library,
> looking up fairly recent books about the archaeology and history of Tyre.
In
> all of the relevant ones, including several reports by Pierre and Patricia
> Bikai, who have been digging at Tyre for years, it is made clear that the
> geology confirms that island was, indeed connected to the coast
> artificially. The island and the immediate coast are kurkar, by the way.
The
> Limestone and chalk only start beyond the coastal strip.
>
> I also had a look at Shalmanessar III's "Balawat Gate" from Khorsabad. The
> relief clearly shows King Ettobaal of Tyre loading tribute on a boat, to
be
> taken to Shalmanessar, who is waiting on the coast across a strip of
water.
>
> Yigal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VC" <vadim_lv at center-tv.net>
> To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The islands
>
>
> > So that you might be more restrained in claiming others' ignorance, I
> > checked with an archeologist friend. The area around Tyre is normal rock
> and
> > limestone; there is no huge sand bank, as can be expected with sand and
> > debris' accretions.
> >
> > Vadim Cherny
> >
> >
> > > Don't show your ignorance. The sea is constantly taking sand and silt
> from
> > one place and adding it to others. That is why people around here hire
> > dredges to take sand and silt from places where the sea constantly adds
to
> > the land, and puts it in places where the sea takes it away. Yes, I live
> on
> > a coastline, too.
> > >
> > > So it makes perfect sense that a causeway built by Alexander the Great
> and
> > his army, by blocking the normal flow of water, would contribute to
> filling
> > in the land between the island and mainland.
> > >
> > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "VC" <vadim_lv at center-tv.net>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Actually, Vadim, until the construction of the Aswan Dam in the
> > 1960's,
> > > > the
> > > > > Levantine coast was regularly supplied with sand and silt, washed
in
> > from
> > > > > the Nile. The causeway's being filled in by sand is perfectly
> > reasonable.
> > > > I'm not sure, but from my experience of living near the sea, this
does
> > not
> > > > seem probable. I doubt seashore increases anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Vadim Cherny
> > >
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