[b-hebrew] The islands

Lee Roy Martin lmartin at vol.com
Tue Jun 8 16:16:55 EDT 2004


Dear Yigal,
It means "island" in Old South Arabic and in Egyptian. Cf. HALOT, and 
Gardiner _Egyptian_ p. 487.
Lee R. Martin




On Jun 9, 2004, at 3:17 PM, Yigal Levin wrote:

> Dear Vadim,
>
> While I really have not decided whether )Iy primarily means "island" or
> "coastland", using a "dictionary of living Hebrew" is problematic. 
> There is
> no doubt that in both Mishnaic and modern Hebrew, )Iy means "island".
> However, this alone is no proof that that's what it meant in biblical
> Hebrew.
>
> By the way, does anyone have a guess about the word's etymology? Does 
> it
> appear in other Semitic languages?
>
> Yigal
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VC" <vadim_lv at center-tv.net>
> To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The islands
>
>
>> I'm referring to the dictionaries of living Hebrew, like Shapiro or
>> Steinberg, not a Tanakhic dictionary with speculative interpretations
>> instead of the established meanings.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Vadim Cherny
>>
>>>>>> The translation of "coastland" is perfectly reasonable. However, 
>>>>>> can
> we
>>>>>> disregard the established meaning of the word and attach it the
> sense,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> which
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> we think suits it better? This approach can lead as far away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> HH: "Coastland" is a well-established meaning for the word.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not in the conventional Hebrew dictionaries
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure what dictionaries you consider "conventional", but one 
>>> of
>>> the best respected in English for nearly 100 years has been
>>> Brown-Driver-Briggs, and its gloss is "coast, region". If that's too
>>> modern for you, try Strong: "dry land, a coast, an island"; or 
>>> Davidson:
>>> "habitable earth or land, coast, sea-coast, island".
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Kirk
>>> peter at qaya.org (personal)
>>> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
>>> http://www.qaya.org/
>>>
>>>
>>
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