[b-hebrew] The islands

VC vadim_lv at center-tv.net
Tue Jun 8 06:23:30 EDT 2004


Built a kilometer-long land bridge?
"Alexander, that he might refresh his army, harassed with many former
encounters, had led only a small party towards the walls, rather to keep the
enemy busy than with any prospect of much advantage," Plutarch. This seems a
land city.
But, of course, there is good argument also in favor of Tyre being an
island.

If the islands are Greek, why Isaiah was concerned with them? How could they
threatened landlocked Jerusalem?

Sincerely,

Vadim Cherny

> In the specific case of Tyre (not mentioned in Isa. 20), remember that the
> city WAS an island, almost a kilometer from the coast. The "suburb" on the
> coast was called Ushu in Mesopotamian documents, probably the Hosah of
Josh.
> 19:29, mistakenly called Paleotyrus by the Greeks. It was Alexander who
> connected the city to the coast in order to conquer it, in a huge
> engineering project.
>
> I had always assumed that the far-away Iyyim are the Greek islands in
> general, though in some cases the reference may be to a coastline. The
Greek
> islands were certainly on the periphery of first millennium ANE geography,
> and were very important to the Persians.
>
> Yigal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reinier de Blois" <r.de.blois at solcon.nl>
> To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] The islands
>
>
> > Let us not be misled by the term "islands". The Hebrew word probably has
> > a wider meaning than that. Coastland may be a much better translation.
> > Think of Isa. 20:6, for example, which probably refers to Philistea,
> > Tyrus, or Sidon, some place near Israel. In the later chapters of Isaiah
> > it may refer to all kinds of Greek and/or Phoenician colonies in the
> > Mediterranean.
> >
> > Let us not forget that we have good maps these days. For us the
> > distinction between islands, peninsulas, and coastlands is relevant. I
> > doubt whether it had the same relevance for the writer of
> > deutero-Isaiah.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Reinier de Blois
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> > > [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Noam Eitan
> > > Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 1:09
> > > To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The islands
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter Kirk <peterkirk at qaya.org> wrote:
> > > On 07/06/2004 12:39, VC wrote:
> > >
> > > >Dear Listmembers,
> > > >
> > > >Just wanted to share a thought. What always puzzled me in
> > > the Tanakh -
> > > >and this turn is most often encountered in Isaiah - is the
> > > reference to
> > > >certain islands. They are clearly hostile to the Jews, ...
> > > >
> > >
> > > >Where does it say this?
> > >
> > > Many of the 36 references to Islands in the Tanakh are
> > > hostile, particularly in the prophets. But it's not so much
> > > that there is any evidence they were hostile to the Judeans,
> > > but rather that the prophets were hostile to them, and even
> > > this hostility was not specific but often part of a
> > > generalized Yahwistic hostility to other nations who will be
> > > taught a lesson one day about Yahweh's superiority. I think
> > > Jeremiah 31:10 is emblematic - 'Islands' stand for the
> > > remotest corners of the earth (and Yahweh's message and score
> > > settling will reach EVEN as far as the islands.) - Noam
> > > Eitan, Brooklyn, NY
> > >
> > >
> > >
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