[b-hebrew] Weak verbs again - sorry

Jerry Shepherd jerry.shepherd at taylor-edu.ca
Thu Jun 3 19:01:47 EDT 2004


To get in on the discussion here (I sent replies earlier, but I believe
they were somehow lost in cyberspace), as has already been pointed out,
the verb is in a pausal situation: this accounts for the patach under
the het lengthening to a qames.  Lee mentioned earlier that this was a
stative verb.  At first I didn't think so, because in the 3ms the vowel
under the second radical is patach, but apparently, in other forms, such
as the 3fs and 3cp, as well as forms with pronominal suffixes, the verb
betrays itself and shows its true stative nature.

 

Jerry

 

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: George F. Somsel [mailto:gfsomsel at juno.com]

> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:41 PM

> To: wattswestmaas at eircom.net

> Cc: b-hebrew at lists.Ibiblio.org

> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Weak verbs again - sorry

> 

> You apparently missed the note that a form ending in a consonant takes
a

> connecting vowel when a suffix is added.  This means that it could not
be

> $aKaXNi [adapting your entry to b-hebrew standards] as you indicate.

> Then too, don't forget that a gutteral prefer an 'a' vowel.

> 

> gfsomsel

> _________

> 

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 23:07:56 +0200 "wattswestmaas"

> <wattswestmaas at eircom.net> writes:

> > Page H. Kelly has thrown up a verb in his book which does not fit
any

> > of his

> > 'good' teaching; and van der Merwe's reference grammar leaves me

> > also

> > twiddling my thumbs.  The verb is from Isaiah 49:14  --  ...and my

> > Lord has

> > FORGOTTEN me...  --  I must say that i had really expected something

> > like

> > SHaCaCHNi.  Kelly says also that ALL Lamed gutterals with added

> > suffixes are

> > conjugated like their Strong verb counterparts (except two, but this

> > one

> > does not fit into that category).  Van der Merwe on page 104/105

> > mentions

> > suffixes but alas that is no help either.

> >

> > Since this verb is a QAL stem in the perfect 1st person,  WHY does

> > it not

> > point the 'nice way' and the 'correct way'?   I have really tried to

> > work

> > out what has been lengthened, changed or whatever.

> >

> > I give up!!!

> >

> > Thankyou all, Chris.

> >

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