[b-hebrew] Leningrad Codex YHWH-Holem

David P Donnelly davedonnelly1 at juno.com
Thu Sep 25 09:41:00 EDT 2003


Concerning the holem being centered between 
the right side of the vav 
and the left side of the he 
in YHWH at Genesis 3:14 in the Leningrad Codex,
Peter Kirk said

>>>
This is the typical position of holam in the Leningrad codex, 
on any  word,
not just the divine name, 
and before any letter, 
not just vav. 

It  is a later convention to shift holam to the left when followed by a 
 silent vav and sometimes a silent alef, 
and to the right otherwise. 
>>>
Dave asks Peter:

Isn't the holem shifted to the top right of the vav,
when the holem is followed by a silent vav.

In Joshua 1:1 in the BHS text,
the holem is placed at the top right of the vav in Yehowshua/Yehoshua.

The holem in effect follows the he, 
and I thought that this holem was followed by a  silent vav,
although by James Strong's convention, 
he appears to write the silent vav as the "w" in Yehowshua
[e.g. Hebrew word #3091  

Doesn't the "w" in James Strong's transliteration of Hebrew word #3091,
[by convention] 
indicate a silent vav??????????

The KJV translates Numbers 13:16 as Jehoshua [not Jehowshua] .

Dave Donnelly

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:18:43 -0700 Peter Kirk <peterkirk at qaya.org>
writes:
> On 24/09/2003 06:13, David P Donnelly wrote:
> 
> >I own a Facsimile Edition of the Leningrad Codex.
> >
> >I have been examining the Leningrad Codex 
> >at both Genesis 3:14 
> >and at Genesis 9:26
> >
> >In both of these verse in the BHS Text,
> >YHWH is found in the Hebrew word #3068 form.
> >[e.g. yod-simple shewa-he-holem-vav-qamets-he]
> >
> >In the BHS Text the holem is found at the top right of the vav
> >in YHWH in the above two verses.
> >
> >In the Leningrad Codex the holem is found in the space between the 
> vav
> >and the first he in YHWH in the above two verses.
> >
> >A portion of the holem is above the top right of the vav.
> >A portion of the holem is above the top left of the first he.
> >  
> >
> This is the typical position of holam in the Leningrad codex, on any 
> 
> word, not just the divine name, and before any letter, not just vav. 
> It 
> is a later convention to shift holam to the left when followed by a 
> 
> silent vav and sometimes a silent alef, and to the right otherwise. 
> And 
> an even later one to confuse the two positions of holam on vav, in 
> the 
> vowel-only holam male (full holam or holam-vav combination) and the 
> 
> consonant-vowel sequence of vav followed by holam. See 
> http://www.qaya.org/academic/hebrew/Issues-Hebrew-Unicode.html.
> 
> >Copyright laws prevent me from legally scanning these two verses 
> >and sending them as e-mail attachments.
> >  
> >
> Even small extracts for scholarly study purposes?
> 
> The images from L in 
> http://www.qaya.org/academic/hebrew/Issues-Hebrew-Unicode.html were 
> 
> taken from extracts on other web sites. My scans from BHS are legal 
> as I 
> understand it.
> 
> >Dave Donnelly
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Kirk
> peter at qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 


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