[b-hebrew] Re: Variant forms of vav with holem

Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya.org
Sat Sep 20 19:48:32 EDT 2003


On 20/09/2003 14:03, David P Donnelly wrote:

>On Fri Jul 25 05:02:08 EDT 2003,
>Peter Kirk said:
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>I received the following from a contact in Israel:
>Vav Holam may convey two meanings, 
>either just a vowel 
>or a consonant Vav with the vowel Holam. 
>Some typographers differentiate these two meaning, many do not. 
>I don't know if there is any Masoretic basis for the distinction 
>or if it is late, 
>And whether it is consistently used 
>in those texts that do make the distinction.
>I don't know either. Can someone answer this? 
>There is a typographical distinction in the printed BHS…
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>Dave says:
>I noted the typographical distinction in my printed BHS,
>by examining the plene form of Strong’s Hebrew word #5771(b) [Avown]
>and 
>by examining the defective form of Strong’s Hebrew word #5771(a) [Avon] 
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>Avown--Strong’s Hebrew word #5771b can be found at II Kings 7:9
>The holem is written at the top right of the 2nd vav in “Avown”
>The Hebrew spelling of_Avown_is ayin-qamets-waw-holem-“silent waw“-nun
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>The 1st vav in Avown is a consonantal vav.
>The 2nd vav in Avown is a Holem vav functioning as the vowel “o”
>[James Strong seems to transliterate the 2nd vav as a silent “w”]
>……………………………….............................................................
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>Avon--Strong’s Hebrew word #5771a can be found at Numbers 14:18
>The holem is written at the top left of the vav in “Avon” 
>The Hebrew spelling of_Avon_is ayin-qamets-waw-holem-nun
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>............
>The only vav in “Avon” was the first letter of the 2nd syllable,
>so it had to be consonantal vav. 
>The holem was written at the top left of this consonantal vav.
>The holem written at the top left of the vav,
>appears to be a holem written defective,
>and becomes the vowel “o”,
>a-f-t-e-r the consonantal vav.
>
>Dave Donnelly
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Thank you, Dave. Actually the discussion has moved on quite a lot since 
I asked this question, though not on this list. See the document "Issues 
in the Representation of Pointed Hebrew in Unicode" at my web site.

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