[b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm

Yigal Levin leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il
Mon Dec 1 16:54:49 EST 2003


Karl,

There are often more than one term that have close meanings. I don't dispuet
XPR or NQR, but they don't mean that KRH doesn't have a similar meaning. As
far as 2 Kings 12:6,8, I've already posted sevearl other instances of the
verb NKR, "to know/recognize": In the hiph'il the nun is dropped; in Ps.
142:5 (v. 4 in English), "ve)eyn-liy makkir" - "there was no-one who knows
me". Look also at Gen. 27:23, Deut. 33:9, Judges 18:3 and so on.

Yigal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph at email.com>
To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm


> Yigal:
>
> I was lazy on this issue, and looked up the occurances of KRH in a
concordance. Though I have disputed the pointings in some cases, I know of
no reason to dispute the pointings for any of the occurances of KRH. That
includes Hos. 3:2.
>
> As for Biblical Hebrew words meaning digging, we have at least XPR meaning
to delve, unearth, both literally as in digging (e.g. a well Gen. 21:30,
26:21) and metaphorically in searching out, and NQR which has the
implication of digging a hole.
>
> As for the participial use in 2 Kings 12:6,8, there's enough to make that
a discussion on its own, so I won't push it now. However there is a word for
"acquaintance" MWD(.
>
> I think you are stretching to maintain your definition.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 at mail.biu.ac.il>
>
> > Hi Karl,
> >
> > I must disagree. In Hos. 3:2 it means "bought", from MKR "sell", in a
sort
> > of reverse way. In Deuteronomy 2:6 it refers to getting water from
wells -
> > even if they were not going to dig, the verb KRH is the way in which
> > "drilling" is referred to. The same in Gen 50:5 - true, presumably Jacob
> > didn't have to dig his own grave, but KRH is the term for "to prepare a
> > grave", since such graves are usually dug. In 2 Kings 12:6 "makaro"
means
> > just what the KJV translates - "his acquaintance" - a totally different
> > verb. In 2 Kings 6:23 he (either Elisha of the king) prepares a big
Kerah of
> > food. This sound like a big bowl or spread. I could claim that a bowl
has a
> > "dug out" shape, but of course I have no evidence of this. However, Kor
is a
> > (liquid) mesure, so maybe a Kerah is a Kor-sized bowl.
> >
> > Yigal
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph at email.com>
> >
> >
> > > Yigal:
> > >
> > > KRH means to provide, furnish. It does not specify the means by which
the
> > provision is made. In Hosea 3:2 and Deuteronomy 2:6 the provision is
through
> > purchase. In  again no digging was involved in that he was buried in a
> > natural cave that was on the property in which his father and
grandfather
> > were buried. In  that which was provided was a meal, or provisions?  the
> > participial form is used for provisions for those who are on duty, in
this
> > case priests in the temple. True, it is often used for providing or
> > furnishing a pit or well, but as can be seen above, digging is not part
of
> > the definition of the word itself, but the unspoken means by which the
> > provision is often made. In an English context not connected with
Tanakh, I
> > have seen the sentence "We provided a well for him."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > >
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