TOHUW WA BOHUW in Gen & Jer.

Peter Kirk Peter_Kirk at sil.org
Fri Apr 5 12:05:18 EST 2002


Lawrence, if you don't understand something, please feel free to ask.
But please don't suggest that anything you don't understand is nonsense,
or anti-Christian and anti-Jewish. Some on this list may not be
interested in spiritual messages; after all, this is a list about
language not about theology. If you think I am not interested, you are
wrong. But before we can find spiritual messages in a text we first need
to understand what the text actually says. For that, both you and I need
to continue to study the Hebrew language, and to learn from the insights
of those who know more than we do.

Peter Kirk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence May [mailto:lgmay at mindspring.com]
> Sent: 05 April 2002 17:24
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: TOHUW WA BOHUW in Gen & Jer.
> 
> From some of the posts regarding this subject, some of the replies are
> purely
> intellectual exercises in interpretation, rather than a Jewish or
> Christian desire to
> understand the spiritual message of the Bible. We should not divorce
the
> Hebrew
> language of the
> Bible from the God who inspired it.  Some assign esoteric labels to
Hebrew
> words and
> constructions without how this would affect the translation  into
language
> that the
> less knowledgeable lurkers on this list can understand.
> 
> As for me, I only have a very basic knowledge of Biblical Hebrew.   I
am
> here to learn.
> and am still learning stems and moods.
> 
> Peter Kirk wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, but what are you trying to say? Are you trying to say that no
one
> > properly understands biblical Hebrew? If so, that must include the
> > translators and the writers of dictionaries etc, so we might as well
> > give up trying to understand the text at all. Now no one would claim
to
> > understand BH perfectly. But some of us claim that, with the help of
> > 20th century (and older) scholarship, archaeological discoveries etc
we
> > can come to understand it better than the translators of older
versions
> > and study aids.
> >
> > Peter Kirk
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jnall [mailto:jnall at alltel.net]
> > > Sent: 04 April 2002 14:00
> > > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > > Subject: Re: TOHUW WA BOHUW in Gen & Jer.
> > >
> > > It appears to me that anyone that claims that they understand the
> > language
> > > the Bible was written in is as mystified as those trying to
understand
> > it
> > > by
> > > the many translations of it????  This does not require a reply any
> > more
> > > than
> > > an Amen! would require.  -Jesse
> > >
> > > Amen!
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > > Peter Kirk wrote:
> > > > Do you claim that you are taking your understanding of creation
from
> > the
> > > > Bible? If so, I suggest that you learn the languages it is
written
> > in
> > > > before attempting to interpret it. Many serious errors have been
> > made by
> > > > interpreters relying on translations.
> > >
> >
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