Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die

Mark Wilson emory2002 at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 22 17:57:57 EDT 2000



I am new to this list, but can someone explain to
me how a post like the one below belongs in here.

I am not against anyone's theological position; I simply
do not see any connection between this post and
B-Hebrew. Please help me see it.

Thank you,

Mark Wilson




>From: "Liz Fried" <lizfried at umich.edu>
>Reply-To: "Liz Fried" <lizfried at umich.edu>
>To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>CC: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>Subject: RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:50:59 -0400
>
>These readings you propose do not explain it.
>Adam and Eve were created mortal. They were always
>going to die. They were kicked out of the garden because
>God was afraid they would eat of the Tree of *Life* and so
>live forever (3:22). Had they chosen to eat from that tree
>they would have lived forever, but they didn't. God hadn't
>forbidden them from eating from that tree, they could have
>eaten from it but they didn't. Why didn't God want them to
>eat from the tree of life?  Because as the snake said, man
>has now become like one of us (like a god), knowing good and
>evil (3:22). If he ate from the tree of life and lived forever, he would
>truly be a god.
>
>The point of the story is to ask what does it mean to be human.
>Prior to eating from the tree of knowledge, man was one of the
>animals. He ate only vegetation, went naked, and talked to the
>animals. Prior to eating from that tree there were only gods and
>animals. As soon as they ate from the tree of knowledge, man
>no longer talked to the animals, no longer went naked. Instead
>of talking to the animals he ate them and wore them.  So now
>humans are midway between the gods and the animals. But if
>they reached out their hand and ate from the tree of life they
>would become gods, because the difference between mankind
>and the gods is eternal life. So to keep man from living forever
>he kicked them out of the garden.
>
>God didn't kick them out because they sinned, there is no
>mention of sin at all, the word never occurs. God kicked them
>out for one reason only, to keep them from becoming gods.
>
>The story is not about the origin of evil (for that you have to
>wait till Gen 6:1). The story is about what it means to be
>a human being: it means to be different from the animals
>in that you have moral discernment, and yet to be different
>from the gods by being mortal.
>
>Best,
>Liz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Ross [mailto:wross at farmerstel.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:29 PM
> > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > Subject: RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die
> >
> >
> > <Liz>
> > > >The point is that the snake was right, not God. Their eyes were 
>opened
> > (3:7), and they did not die on the day they ate it as God said they 
>would
> > (2:17).
> >
> > <Bill>
> > !!!!
> > There are some disturbing corrallaries to your interpretation - which I
> > admit has force from how I read the words.
> >
> > Is there any possibility for a reading something to the effect of:
> >
> > "...from the day you eat thereof you are certain to die..."?
> >
> > or
> >
> > "...in that day that you eat of it, I tell you that your death will be
> > certain..."
> >
> > Or some other reading that doesn't place the death within the day?
> >
> > Bill Ross
> >
> >
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