peter_kirk at sil.org
peter_kirk at sil.org
Sat Dec 18 00:18:57 EST 1999
POINT 1: So are you saying that Moses (or whoever) was such a careless
editor that he just didn't notice that he had left doublets in his
text, even when they were as close together as Genesis 6:2 and 4? And
despite that he managed to produce such a brilliant literary work?
Talk about schizophrenic authors! OK, I admit that the rather odd
structure of this passage needs explaining, but I expect there are
other ways to do that e.g. by interpreting 'ASHER in 6:4 to mean
something like "as a result of".
POINT 2: As for the divisions by the "toldot" formula, is it evidence
of the multiple authorship of this E-mail (before the "Reply
Separator"!) that there is a repeated formulaic heading "POINT n"?
POINT 3 (relevant to some other recent postings): Is it evidence that
a different Peter Kirk wrote this E-mail that I am adopting a
tongue-in-cheek combative style for this one rather than the more
academic style of some of my other recent postings?
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Subject: JEPD Evidence
Author: <jonathan.bailey at gmx.de> at Internet
Date: 17/12/1999 17:19
The title is misleading, as I am not putting forth evidence of the Wellhausen di
things, but I do see multiple authors in Genesis, and would like to put a few of
First, though, one must be clear about the term "author". A redacteur/translator
really not too far from being an author who works from several sources, and perh
would merit further clarification on this list, perhaps by those who have been m
successful at articulating detailed statements than I. :-) I intend to put som
on the floor that suggest multiple "authors", though I am not intending to aband
view that Genesis is a unified composition with one author, Moses, who made use
a variety of sources.
One piece of evidence for multiple sources in Genesis is the spooky "toldot" phr
some cases accompanied by words such as sefer (Gen 5:1) which seem to go to
extra effort to make the preceding or following segment that it heads appear to
separate piece of writing. The toldot phrases do topologically divide the book.
toldot phrase enclosed text is a story unto itself.
Evidence number two are doublets. A professor of mine, Baruch Halpern, made the
statement that "without doublets, documentary hypothesis falls apart". Now I am
talking about supposed doublets here where the doubled story is a thematically
independant work (I would not, for example call Gen 1 and Gen 2 a doublet of the
same thing), but rather instances where the repeated text does not build a liter
unit. Take the nephilim passages at the beginning of Gen 6. That is one of the b
doublets I have found. Anyway, I would like to see how one accounts for doublets
without mentioning compiling of varied source materials. Most of the answers tha
have found are rather theological, and claim that the doublets reveal hidden spi
pearls for the reader. Now I do admit that i have found a few such pearls in dou
during my lifetime, but I cannot convince myself of the idea that Moses (or whoe
wrote/redacted) Genesis was saying (in every instance): "Let me write this in a
way, twice, so I can hide a few spiritual gems in there." Now I might buy the id
God, using Moses' (or whoever's) redactional efforts, stuck the pearls in the te
there is indeed a hidden mystery there in the first place), but I think that the
concern on Moses' (or whoever's) mind was more along the lines of trying to figu
out how to accurately preserve source materials.
So these evidences take me a long way toward thinking that a single author/redac
made use of source material to such a conservative degree that the original sour
material still has visible traces in the present text.
Now I do not mean to defend the historical documentary hypothesis, but I think t
the book of Genesis presents evidence that documents were involved. I would be h
pressed to say that Genesis came from a single author, but would be more
comfortable with the term single redacteur/translator. Now this statement doesn'
hurt the evangelical position, in my opinion, because it allows our present text
traces of source material that is substantially OLDER than it's redacteur, who m
fundamentalists/evangelicals would name Moses.
Anyway, those are my comments. There is evidence for A documentary hypothesis,
though not necessarily the one Wellhausen sold to us.
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