[B-Greek] prepositions and cases - Silvia Luraghi 2003
mga318 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 8 22:24:15 EDT 2010
Elizabeth is close when she writes, "I wonder what sort of problems one will introduce into their "framework" by assuming that the semantic roles for cases and prepositions have
*all* been derived metaphorically from spacial relationships"
But what needs to be changed is the "have *all* been derived" to "are all derived." Fundamentally speaking, Luraghi is making a claim about how humans cognitively connect things in their minds. This is far more Lakoff than Fillmore with a little bit of Martin Haspelmath and Ronald Langacker thrown in. The idea of cognitive space is discussed here (“The geometry of grammatical meaning: Semantic maps and cross-linguistic
comparison.” In: Tomasello, Michael (ed.) The new psychology of language, vol. 2. Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum, 211-242: http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/staff/haspelmath/publications_haspelmath.php ). While the concept of semantic roles originated with Fillmore, cognitive linguistics has taken in new directions.
Anyway, Luraghi gets more into the Classical period later on in the book and does indeed deal with the Hellenistic period in her final chapter.
PS - I've blogged about Luraghi's book a few times, you could probably dig those posts up for more of my thoughts,
From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
Cc: greek B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 3:33:57 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] prepositions and cases - Silvia Luraghi 2003
On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
> On the meaning of prepositions and cases: the expression of semantic roles ... By Silvia Luraghi
> On the Meaning of Prepositions and Cases: The expression of semantic roles in Ancient Greek
> Luraghi, Silvia
> Studies in Language Companion Series 67
> I've managed to wade through the first 75 pages of this in the last 24hours.
> Not sure about the basic assumptions. I wonder what sort of problems one will introduce into their "framework" by assuming that the semantic roles for cases and prepositions have *all* been derived metaphorically from spacial relationships. When did this happen? A thousand years before the Iliad?
I don't know that it's possible to demonstrate that proposition conclusively, but I believe it is true. What convinces me is that a primary sense of local relationship is patently evident within the range of usage of all the genuine prepositions in ancient Greek, the more so in the earlier literary evidence. The metaphorical extensions of the spatial senses are also, I think, generally discernible without any great indulgence in pure speculation.
More information about the B-Greek