[B-Greek] Eph. 6:5 syntax

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 5 12:35:07 EDT 2010


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> On 4/4/10 9:37 PM, "Richard Lindeman" <oblchurch at msn.com> wrote:
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>> Elizabeth:
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>> I do not associate the "fear and trembling with Christ so much as with
>> POIOUNTES TO QELHMA TOU QEOU EK YUCHS. On the other hand, EN hAPLOTHTI THS
>> KARDIAS hUMWN is what I associate more closely with TWi CRISTWi.
>> 
>> Rich Lindeman 


Richard,

In all this discussion I neglected to address the sytnax of Eph. 6:5 

Eph. 6:5 Οἱ δοῦλοι, ὑπακούετε τοῖς κατὰ σάρκα κυρίοις μετὰ φόβου καὶ τρόμου ἐν ἁπλότητι τῆς καρδίας ὑμῶν ὡς τῷ Χριστῷ,  6 μὴ κατ᾿ ὀφθαλμοδουλίαν ὡς ἀνθρωπάρεσκοι ἀλλ᾿ ὡς δοῦλοι Χριστοῦ ποιοῦντες τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ ἐκ ψυχῆς,  7 μετ᾿ εὐνοίας δουλεύοντες ὡς τῷ κυρίῳ καὶ οὐκ ἀνθρώποις, 

Eph. 6:5 hOI DOULOI, hUPAKOUETE TOIS KATA SARKA KURIOIS META FOBOU KAI TROMOU EN hAPLOTHTI THS KARDIAS hUMWN hWS TWi CRISTWi,  6 MH KAT᾿ OFQALMODOULIAN hWS ANQRWPARESKOI ALL᾿ hWS DOULOI CRISTOU POIOUNTES TO QELHMA TOU QEOU EK YUCHS,  7 MET᾿ EUNOIAS DOULEUONTES hWS TWi KURIWi KAI OUK ANQRWPOIS, 

Eph. 5:21 Ὑποτασσόμενοι ἀλλήλοις ἐν φόβῳ Χριστοῦ, 

Eph. 5:21 hUPOTASSOMENOI ALLHLOIS EN FOBWi CRISTOU,

P.T. O'Brien  (Eph. Pillar) reads  hWS TWi CRISTWi with the verb hUPAKOUETE and it's qualifiers. In other words, Paul is telling the hOI DOULOI to submit to thier earthly masters META FOBOU KAI TROMOU and EN hAPLOTHTI THS KARDIAS, **in the same manner**  hWS they would submit  TWi CRISTWi. I agree with O'Brien. That is why I cited the text in first place, to use Eph. 6:5 as a commentary on 5:21 EN FOBWi CRISTOU. 

The next verse has two hWS constituents, the second one hWS DOULOI CRISTOU is interesting. Perhaps we should understand it as looking all the way back to hUPAKOUETE.  

 
On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:23 AM, Richard Lindeman wrote:

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> Let me restate my thought. Yes, it is fear and trembling of Christ, but it
> is not a fear in connection with his "terror of person", but rather a fear
> and trembling in connection with his "glory of person". Huge difference.
> 
> And having stated that, let me also apologize for failing to comment upon
> the Greek in this matter. I suppose that another approach might be to take
> FOBOU CHRISTOU as being "fear in connection with Christ" (aka mystical
> union) rather than "fear of Christ" (Christ as object).
> 
> I am making this argument from context...
> CHRISTOS ANESTH,  ANESTH ALHTHWS
> 
> Rich Lindeman
> 
> 
> On 4/4/10 9:37 PM, "Richard Lindeman" <oblchurch at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> 

 
 






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