[B-Greek] DIA PISTEWS IHSOU CRISTOU - Rom. 3.22
virgilsalvage1 at msn.com
Mon Apr 10 00:35:02 EDT 2006
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:00:53 -0600 "virgil newkirk"
> <virgilsalvage1 at msn.com> writes:
> > Mitch wrote,
There seems to be considerable debate about whether or
> > not the Subjective or Objective is to be understood
> > with this expression. My interest is almost elsewhere,
> > however. Can the expression "faith in/toward Christ"
> > (where a person's faith is directed toward Christ) be
> > expressed in Greek unambiguously?
> > Mitch,
> > I would say...absolutely !
> > An example for say a number of people; in some moment coming with
> > faith
> > in/toward Christ:
> > PISTEUOUSI EIS TON CRISTON
> > or you, Mitch:
> > PISTEUEIS EIS TON CRISTON
> > or us all:
> > PISTEUOMEN EIS TON CRISTON
Salt Lake City
> EIS TON XRISTON never appears in the NT as a qualification of the verb
> PISTEUW. In 2 Cor 11.3 we find
> FOBOUMAI DE MH PWS, hWS hO OFIS ECEPATHSEN EUAN EN THi PANOURGIAi AUTOU,
> FQARHi TA NOHMATA hUMWN APO THS hAPOLTHTOS [KAI THS hAGNOTHTOS] THS EIS
> TON XRISTON
> It does appear in Acts 19.4 in the Byz Maj and TR texts which have EIS
> TON XRISTON, but not in the critical texts which have IHSOUN rather than
> hINA PISTEUSWSIN, TOUT' ESTIN EIS TON IHSOUN.
> Of course, one might say that this is virtually the same thing.
Yes, George, as you say.
However, (not to be picky) but Mitch's question was not how the Greek New
Testament expresses 'faith in/toward Christ', but was:
Can the expression "faith in/toward Christ" (where a person's faith is
directed toward Christ) be expressed in Greek unambiguously?
Thus my response with the three following examples:
PISTEUOUSI EIS TON CRISTON
or you, Mitch:
PISTEUEIS EIS TON CRISTON
or us all:
PISTEUOMEN EIS TON CRISTON
The point being, I think, from Mitch; what about all these so-called
instances of ambiguity....is it really so ?
As far as the GNT; we find numerous examples of the unambiguous expression
of 'faith in/toward Christ.'
We find very clear and economical expressions of 'faith in/toward Christ'
'NOT' in DIA PISTEWS IHSOU CHRISTOU (note different translations from
different scholars), but in the following:
John 2:11....EPISTEUSAN EIS AUTON
John 3:16...PAS hO PISTEUWN EIS AUTON
John 3:18...hO PISTEUWN EIS AUTON
John 3:36...hO PISTEUWN EIS TON hUION
John 6:29...PISTEUHTE EIS hON
John 6:40...PISTEUWN EIS AUTON
John 7:5 ...negated EPISTEUON EIS AUTON
John 7:31...EPISTEUSAN EIS AUTON
John 7:38...hO PISTEUWN EIS EME
John 7:39...hOI PISTEUSANTES EIS AUTON
Acts 8:37...PISTEUW TON hUION
Acts 9:42...POLLOI EPI TON KURION
Romans 9:33...hO PISTEUWN EP AUTWi
1Peter 1:8 ...TOUS PISTOUS EIS QEON
and a final example from 1John5:13...TOIS PISTEUOUSIN EIS TO ONOMA TOU hUIOU
Surely these are clear and concise statements (by four different authors
btw) in the GNT, expressing 'faith in/toward Christ and God.'
Salt Lake City
More information about the B-Greek