[B-Greek] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN
Harry W. Jones
hwjones2 at earthlink.net
Tue Feb 4 20:55:29 EST 2003
Hello Carlton and Iver,
I appreciate your help.
So then *handle*, if I understand you both correctly, would be a valid
gloss for AROUSIN.
In a message dated 2/4/2003 6:08:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu writes:
> Hello All,
> My question concerns KAI EN TAIS CERSIN OFEIS AROUSIN.
> I have noticed that some translations have AROUSIN translated as *handle*
> and I am wondering if that could an accurate gloss of this
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Best Regards,
> Harry Jones
Harry, its the combination of AROUSIN and CERSIN that gives the meaning "to
handle." "to take up with the hands."
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> [Original Message]
> From: Iver Larsen <iver_larsen at sil.org>
> To: Biblical Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: 2/4/03 6:54:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [B-Greek] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN
> > Forwarded for Harry Jones:
> > From: "Harry W. Jones" <hwjones2 at earthlink.net>
> > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:17:57 -0800
> > Hello All,
> > My question concerns KAI EN TAIS CERSIN OFEIS AROUSIN.
> > I have noticed that some translations have AROUSIN translated as
> > and I am wondering if that could an accurate gloss of this word?
> According to my little English dictionary, handle has two senses:
> 1) feel with or move by the hands
> 2) to deal with or control
> I would think that sense 1 is OK for Mark 16:18, but sense 2 is
> If one understands "handle" here as a habitual controlling or handling, I
> would prefer to just use the more common gloss for AIRW, that is, "pick
> as NIV has it. Based on the following context of drinking poison, it seems
> to me that the picking up of snakes is either unintentional as Paul
> experienced on Malta or at least not a normal or habitual event. Normally,
> if one had to move a snake, one would use a long stick, so I suppose the
> "hands" are meant to indicate an abnormal way of touching a snake. Both
> and TEV leave the hands implicit in "pick up", unless they have chosen to
> translate without the textually disputed words "KAI EN TAIS CERSIN". It is
> interesting to me how the TEV has moved the "if" forward to indicate the
> assumed unintentionality: "if they pick up snakes or drink any poison,
> will not be harmed".
> REB does the same: "if they handle snakes or drink any deadly poison, they
> will come to no harm." I think this is probably the intended meaning of
> future "they will pick up".
> Iver Larsen
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