Meaning of PANTWN hUMWN in 1 Cor 14:18

Lynn Trapp rltrapp at
Fri Aug 25 13:50:29 EDT 2000

I too think we wandered a bit off the purpose of the list but I appreciate
your comments nonetheless.
Lynn  :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl W. Conrad [mailto:cwconrad at]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:47 PM
To: Lynn Trapp
Subject: RE: [b-greek] Re: Meaning of PANTWN hUMWN in 1 Cor 14:18

At 12:20 PM -0500 8/25/00, Lynn Trapp wrote:


Thanks for the quick and thorough response. I understand your view but
wonder if the situation you describe would not fit a scenario of human
languages as well. For example, if you had an assembly of Greek speakers and
someone received, by divine gift, the ability to speak Hebrew would not that
be just as unintelligible to the rest as an "ecstatic" language? Thus, for
the purpose of edification, which Paul appears to be addressing, would that
not necessitate an interpreter?

That was NOT a thorough response but a very concise one; I think the case
can be made at greater length and more convincingly. I do wonder whether
Paul should be understood as speaking five words with his NOUS more
convincingly in Hebrew or in Greek--I think the antithesis is between
intelligible speech and unintelligible speech rather than between languages
intelligible to two different speech-communities. Nevertheless, I don't
think this is the proper forum for this discussion. I do not intend to
pursue it further here. Suffice it to say that there will remain alternate
views on this matter, and that some will find one particular view more
convincing than another.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics/Washington University
One Brookings Drive/St. Louis, MO, USA 63130/(314) 935-4018
Home: 7222 Colgate Ave./St. Louis, MO 63130/(314) 726-5649
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