[SM-Discuss] New x86_64 ISO

Kajikawa Jeremy belxjander_serechai at yahoo.co.nz
Sun Jan 18 19:28:20 EST 2009


Well Im the lucky owner of having access to both an AMD Sempron 32bit
and AMD Athlon64 X2 SMP kit,

I can report this... with regards SMP...
 I was using SMP on the Uniprocessor Sempron with no issues at all...
 so I +1 shipping ISOs with SMP enabled kernels (there is few options to
change)
 and also recommend a *server* multitasking selection in the kernel
config.
 let the user change the kernel options (SMGL users generally rebuild to
install anyway)

I would also recommend having a default /etc/network/interfaces file
preset with
 *NO* "auto" lines and enable for the user to optionally have eth0 or
another interface
 prepared for dhcp network connectivity (do we need scripting for this?)

The only query I have is possible need for wifi drivers to need
wpa_supplicant already
 installed (in case of wpa wireless requirements).  it is very painful
to setup by hand
 and reasonably simple to prepare a hidden and dedicated network config
for this

I'll bugzilla for this if not already present...

Sincerely,
 Jeremy(/Belxjander/)

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 14:51 +0100, Thomas Orgis wrote:
> Am Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:37:55 -0500
> schrieb flux <flux at sourcemage.org>: 
> 
> > Our new Cauldron developer, Quentin Rameau, has produced a devel version
> > x86_64 ISO
> 
> OK, I gave it a spin on my Core2 duo laptop. Before my notes vanish in lack of time for bug reports or whatnot, here they are:
> 
> good: It worked after all!
> 
> bad:
> bootup doesn't wait for usb cdrom drive, fails to find the disc to boot from
> 
> good:
> allows to recover using boot-from /dev/cdrom (which is there after few seconds)
> 
> bad:
> modutils init script fails because /lib read only (the init script should be deactivated on ISO anyway)
> strange: mountall.sh error in line 127. write error...
> 
> bad:
> hwclock.sh cannot find a clock, some driver issue, I guess (my newly configured kernel has it resolved, would have to look again to see what driver it actually is)
> 
> bad:network fails because no /etc/network/interfaces ... this is somewhat by design, but then we should disable the init script. Either disable or try dhcp. Or ask.
> 
> strange:
> Spell selection menu, but also the preselection... is the default really that g++ is installed but gcc not?
> Is glibc _not_ installed by default? I didn't try that. Same with bash.
> 
> strange:
> grub is not installed but grub config in /boot/grub is overwritten
> I did not install a boot loader since this is the second linux on that box, there's one already.
> 
> dunno:
> /etc/hostname missing... we could provide a default there (echo set-etc-hostname-you-prick > /mnt/root/etc/hostname;-).
> 
> dunno:
> system groups ... should they be predefined? udev complains about missing ones in rules...
> 
> strange:
> sorcery default config, on the x86-64 system is optimize for i486
> 
> strange:
> smgl-fhs was not there... intent? Same for the basesystem meta-spell.
> I expected a preinstalled basesystem, with sorcery knowing about every installed spell.
> 
> strange:
> first gnupg check fails, missing ~/.gnupg, creating, still errors out ... next gpg check works
> 
> strange:
> stable grimoire had bad metadata
> 
> bad:
> sorcery rebuild: "device" is not a spell, "module-init" "net" "nfs" ... some spell names are cut in wrong places for the installed spells list.
> I think I heard of this one already...
> 
> suggestion:
> ISO kernel should be SMP, definetely for x86-64. It does not break the uniprocessor systems and you gotta search hard for a x86-64 box with a single core nowadays.
> At least there should be the option to copy prepared SMP kernel to the installed system. Rationale is that especially during sorcery rebuild, you don't want to use only 1/n of your processing power.
> 
> That's it for now. I hope my report is helpful... I'll try to elaborate on the points if they're not that clear (for sure;-).
> 
> 
> Alrighty then,
> 
> Thomas.
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