eric at sandall.us
Fri Sep 2 19:27:49 EDT 2005
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Flavien Bridault wrote:
> Sorry that you left us, but I well understand your motivations.
> That remind me that I have a cleanse --fix running for more than four
> hours now. It is only at half of the spells (CPU : XP2600+). Hopefully,
> I have noticed by chance that openssl 0.9.8 broke some packages. In fact
> it breaks a huge number of spells (all gnome spells for example) !!! I
> say "hopefully", because if I had switched off my box, I would have a
> completely broken box tomorrow, and I would not be able to work for
> hours. I keep thinking about all the (few) users we have that will have
> a broken box in the following days. They will definitively think they
> made the right choice. It's indeed very magic, your box can become
> useless with one spell upgraded !!
> I'm upset because it's not the first time (last time I remember, udev
> config files change that made a box unbootable...) I know this is not an
> easy problem to solve in sorcery, this would indeed require to have a
> much better trigger system. I would not blame our sorcery team for that.
> But since we don't have it yet, the least that we, as grimoire
> developers, can do, is to WARN THE USER ! Anything, a quick notice, a
> short prompt, saying that it breaks a lot of packages and that a
> "cleanse --fix" would be required after. It is not respectful to our
> users to not do this. And don't say me again that this have been
> discussed on the ML. It's definitively a joke to think that all the
> users read the ML, or that would say that SMGL is not designed to be
> used by anyone else except the developers since it is a play area.
> It's a big waste of time to do advertising or any promotion with such
> behaviors. I heard that SMGL were a distribution for system
> administrators ?? Do you think it can really be with such problems ? Do
> you think an administrator can lost hours to fix one of his server
> because of a spell update ?
> Now I get off my computer, I'm sick and tired to have my CPU entirely
> busy for hours. I love SMGL but when such things happen, I really think
> about switching to another distribution like Bas.
> PS : Great, glibc just failed to cast...
That's why we have a /stable/ grimoire that goes through at least a
modicum of formal testing. Test grimoire is just packages integrated
that worked for a developer. Devel is the playground. Choose your
Eric Sandall | Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
eric at sandall.us | http://www.sourcemage.org/
http://eric.sandall.us/ | SysAdmin @ Inst. Shock Physics @ WSU
http://counter.li.org/ #196285 | http://www.shock.wsu.edu/
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