[SM-Discuss] STRONGER POLICY for gpg signatures to replace MD5[*] and ALSO new SOURCE_HASH support
Sergey A. Lipnevich
sergey at optimaltec.com
Tue Aug 30 17:25:06 EDT 2005
Quoting Seth Alan Woolley <seth at positivism.org>:
> As I said, if you can show it's a common interpretation of signatures
> that they mean something trascendental to what FIPS-186 denotes, I'm
> willing to add support for spell signing directly to sorcery (which
> creates a level of indirection that you should be content with). That
> brings up the problem of increasing complexity of code and might lead to
> a failure of users to trust the system due to its increased complexity.
> So the "amount" of misunderstanding would have to be more than
> proportional to the increased compexity that we would be adding. I'd
> say it adds 10% complexity to the system if we add direct spell or
> DETAILS signing. If you can show that this mistake is common enough to
> warrant that increased complexity, I'll agree with you (on this matter
Is the fact that I am not the originator of the tarball enough?
> P.S. It has come to my attention that a patch with what you would like
> to see would go a long way toward improving your argument's viability.
You mean a patch to sign spells? I was thinking more like an SCM that has this
feature built in.
In regards to keeping hashes, how can I make a patch to not exclude code from
sorcery? Signing commits has little to do with this.
> P.P.S. Regarding charred bridges, I think next time you might tread
> lighter responding to certain people, although it's really a mutual
> suggestion -- I think others have not been as lightly treading as they
> could have been as well, myself included.
This entire conversation, Seth, is a waste of everyone's time. Think about it:
we're discussing whether a feature that is useful and widely used in the
project, suddenly has to be removed. There's nothing wrong with this feature.
Somebody decided they don't want it, and I disagreed. It's like removing ATA
support from the kernel because SCSI is better and faster. It's chilarious at
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