[SM-Discuss] Basesystem Cache files on Mirror
Seth Alan Woolley
seth at positivism.org
Thu Apr 28 12:15:58 EDT 2005
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:59:24AM -0700, Eric Sandall wrote:
> Quoting "David Michael Leo Brown Jr." <dmlb2000 at excite.com>:
> > Many times, either in the process of helping get smgl users up to pure 64bit
> > systems with x86-64 or trying to sort out compile errors with basesystem, I
> > have
> > had to offer my cache files to help fix their machines.
> > Many times problems with basesystem can cascade into greater problems that
> > cause
> > the system to be completely unusable. The fact that we allow users to do
> > this is
> > one of the things I love about sourcemage. However, I think we should offer
> > a way
> > for users to get at least their basesystem back from cache files without
> > having to
> > either find the cd or download and burn the cd. Also, the cd doesn't always
> > come with the latest versions of spells, in some instances this would force
> > users to
> > reinstall the basesystem from the cd just to get something workable (ie glibc
> > being out of date on the cd vs. the one they might have installed).
> > I would like to see ppc, x86-64, sparc, i386 and i686 cache files on the
> > mirror.
> > I suggest both i386 and i686 because of the number of people that have i686
> > or
> > greater machines.
> > I will offer my x86-64 basesystem spells for the mirror if they are needed,
> > however my other machines compile for pentium so they won't do.
> I like this idea. We can put the tarballs under
> http://download.sourcemage.org/cache/<architecture>/ (e.g.
> http://download.sourcemage.org/cache/i386/). I'd like to request volunteers to
> build these caches and that all spells for this have all optional dependencies
> off (so that we have just the bare-minimum needed and don't require people to
> install extra packages for a quickfix).
> Luckily Sorcery has this feature called install_root that will allow anyone
> to do this without having to rebuild their system. :) Just set it up to use
> /opt/smgl for INSTALL_ROOT and STATE_ROOT and you're set.
> One problem I due see with this, however, is that we'd have to keep these
> binaries up-to-date. That may not be fun.
> Required architectures:
> x86: i386, i686
Why not stick with just i386?
> x86-64: x86-64, x86-32
x86-32 can be the same as i386
> ppc: g3, g4
Why not just stick with least-common denominator? g3
> Anyone see problems with that list? We may have to drop i386 and do i486 as i386
> cannot do glibc+NPTL.
AFAIK i386 is only a problem building NPTL in glibc. Compiling
everything else i386 would work and we could have a non-NPTL i386 glibc
and an NPTL i486 glibc cache.
If this is for stable, I can probably get these hosted (x86*) as part of my
automated testing process, as I will have to have built stable grimoire
in order to declare stable stable.
If somebody can send me a G3, I can build the G3s and test stable
grimoire at the same time (or a remote g3 with root access). If I can
have one in my possession, that would be great (and I promise to keep it
in the SMGL family.)
Let's not make more work than we need.
>  http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=install_root+and+others
> Eric Sandall | Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
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