[permaculture] EcoAg Partners

Lawrence London lfljvenaura at gmail.com
Fri Oct 14 20:04:31 EDT 2016


On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Michael Pilarski <
friendsofthetrees at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Afew comments on EcoAg.  I have been tracking them a bit for a couple
> ofdecades (even before they coined the term ecoag).  They came out of
> (Ibelieve) the World Resources Institute in Washington DC.  I
> highlyrecommend everyone read their 2004 book Ecoagriculture,by Jeffrey A.
> McNeeely and Sara J. Scherr. 2004. Island Press. On pages100-103 they
> compare quite a number of models of agriculture and naturalresource
> management, including permaculture and HM.  This book laid thegroundwork
> for what they call ecoagriculture. It is interesting to note that they do
> not mention Biodynamics or GrowBiointensive in their comparisons.   Their
> assessment of permaculture was not correct.Whoever wrote that section is
> not very conversant with permaculture and so theydid not rate it that
> highly compared to their own ecoagriculture. I would begto differ.  I wish
> permaculture had anorganization that was as well funded as Ecoag.  Ijust
> spent some time looking around their very impressive website.  They are
> doing lots of great work, have lotsof great on-the-ground partners and have
> useful publications and analyses.  Well worth studying.   Aword of
> caution.  Their staff are, by andlarge, highly educated,
> university-trained, highly paid professionals. This isnot the grassroots.
> Rather this is partof the reform wing within the establishment that
> recognizes that a dead world isn’tgood for business.  They are tied in
> withbig funders and unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.  They are
> not likely to lead a change in whocontrols the world’s power.  They are
> reformers rather than radicals. They have good connections with the World
> Bank, IUCN, UN agencies,etc.  In other words they are part of
> theestablishment.  Thatsaid, I would encourage collaboration with them
> where possible (withoutcompromising principles). I don’t expect that, by
> and large, they will welcomepermaculture as a whole within their fold. We
> are too radical andgrass-roots.  However, individuals aremore likely to be
> open to collaboration then the organization as a whole.   Of course, I’d be
> happy to hear the opinions of other peoplewho are familiar with them and
> their work. I have my biases.
> - Michael Pilarski
>
>
>
Maybe this will be useful:
I will forward to sanet any replies to this from Kris:
"Permaculture generally seems aimed at family food production more than
gardening for a bigger market. Any thoughts or resources on that?"

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kris Johnson RR <cjohnson143 at woh.rr.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] The business of landscapes, eco agriculture,
sustainable agriculture, sustainable development (links to websites)
To: sanet-mg at googlegroups.com


If you click on a team member photo, http://ecoagriculture.org/
about/our-team/, you get to their bio and there is a button to contact
them. So you can communicate with them about permaculture. Permaculture
generally seems aimed at family food production more than gardening for a
bigger market. Any thoughts or resources on that?
Kris
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com>
*To:* sanet-mg at googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 1:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [SANET-MG] The business of landscapes, eco agriculture,
sustainable agriculture, sustainable development (links to websites)


On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kris Johnson RR <cjohnson143 at woh.rr.com>
wrote:

> and they have good bios on their team, which is quite extensive, and their
> board.


That is all good. I hope they are able to follow through with
implementation of their program through their client corporations.
This seems like a new thing and I hope we see more organizations getting
involved in similar efforts
This use of the term landscapes is new to me; I have never run across that
until now.
When will they get involved with permaculture, the logical strategy for
them to make use of.


-- 
Lawrence F. London, Jr.
lfljvenaura at gmail.com
https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared


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