[permaculture] The Full International Permaculture Group on A new Thread (All Emails Fixed)

Steve Hart stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com
Wed Oct 1 01:33:08 EDT 2014


Yes great idea Jillian. IMO it would be smart to link, hold hands, so the
left hand knows what the right hand is doing. The structural frame of GAPPS
suggests that many groups within GAPPS forms much in the same manner as is
already evolving with international structures within Permaculture. In that
we have a strong and long history of the European wide group, where there
exists 50 countries. Similarly for Australasia , now Nth America and
hopefully soon for all other 7-8 intercontinental regions. One other good
reason for a Nth American group to form is that funding is often biased to
countries. This is very much so in USA. Many American (USA) donor
organisations will only offer funding to USA registered groups. It is
similar elsewhere. May I repeat that IMO it is worthwhile working together.
The only limitation is how the structures of such allow this. So please do
spend a minute and browse through the GAPPS website.
www.permaculturepartnerships.com and offer any form of comment.

I have added this whole communication to the european network and the USA
based network moderated by Lawrence London. IMO the more communication we
can create the better.

Steve Hart

On 1 October 2014 07:18, Jillian Hovey <jillian at permaculture.net> wrote:

> I think that it would be good to have a North American group that is
> connected to international work, and it would be good to have an global
> group as well.
>
> These lists are the result of:
>
>    1. a Working Group started at the NAPC, which met three times (?)
>    2. a convergence session on International Permaculture
>
> Others can perhaps say more, especially Rico Zook, who is starting up
> "Itinerant Permaculture", and can say more about that (or perhaps Tiffany
> can if Rico is off line).
>
> Jillian Hovey
> Facilitator of Sustainable Community Planning & Design
>
> Sustainable Living Design
> Sustainable Living Coaching
> The Sustainable Living Network
> & Sustainable Living Books
> Ontario, Canada
>
> www.jillianhovey.com
> www.sustainablelivingbooks.com
> www.sustainablelivingnetwork.org
>
> email: jillian at permaculture.net
> skype: jillianhovey
>
>
>   On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 1:11 AM, Steve Hart <
> stevenlawrencehart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Jillian...great to have some feedback from NAPC1. I'm trying to
> read betweeen the lines here. Seems there is interest in setting up a
> Permaculture in Aid & Development entity ? Is that the key point ?
> objective ? aim ? I offer you here the GAPPS website to consider. The *G*
> lobal* A*lliance for *P*ermaculture *P*artnerships and *S*olutions.
> www.permaculturepartnerships.com The history and formulation is very
> briefly mentioned. It is a website still in building or transition or
> succession like any good natural element. This entity came about from
> discussions at IPC10 in Jordan and following wkshps at EUPC in Germany.
>
> Could you please clarify for me what exactly are the intentions of this
> energy from NAPC1 ? If it is in fact what we are saying in GAPPS I would
> suggest we all jump on the same train. GAPPS is still in the start up phase
> with no existing funding. We are presently compiling data bases and will
> soon be sending out invitations for involvement at all levels.
>
> I do look forward to the responses
>
> Best regards
>
> Steve Hart
>
> On 1 October 2014 06:39, Jillian Hovey <jillian at permaculture.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> I have been very busy in the four weeks since the NAPC, two of which I was
> largely off line.
>
> It is approaching 1am, so I will be brief.  I have added to this list
> Steve Hart of New Zealand (who is married to a Czech woman, and is living
> in Europe currently), and Kipper from Berlin who has a not-for-profit which
> works in Africa, and Benjamin Burnley from France who is part of
> Permaculture Intinerant and works in French-speaking West Africa.  These
> guys have been involved in the conversations about "GAPPs", which I will
> leave for Steve to explain.  I have also included Margarethe Holer from
> Austria who has international ties as well, and is a long-term involved
> permie supporting work in other countries.
>
> In terms of email lists, perhaps it is better to create list "list serve",
> which people can be added to, and can have a moderator.
>
> I will try to take the time to review the past correspondence more
> carefully, but wanted to get at least this email out, and to include my
> colleagues in Europe.
>
> Jillian Hovey
> Facilitator of Sustainable Community Planning & Design
>
> Sustainable Living Design
> Sustainable Living Coaching
> The Sustainable Living Network
> & Sustainable Living Books
> Ontario, Canada
>
> www.jillianhovey.com
> www.sustainablelivingbooks.com
> www.sustainablelivingnetwork.org
>
> email: jillian at permaculture.net
> skype: jillianhovey
>
>
>   On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:28 AM, Andrea <andgarden at tds.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Please include me in the future Emails
>
> Thank you all for all the work you do! Look forward to seeing you all
> again sometime soon
>
> ~ Andrea Holker
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Tiffany Grell <permyfany at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is the most accurate and fixed thread.. delete others :-)
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Braden Trauth <
> omvalleypermaculture at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> After reviewing the completed version from our contact in Morocco I've
> realized that there is now area for toilets (which he added), which could
> go something like this:
> Toilets: __ Indoor Flush __ Out house __ Compost __ None __ Other
> (I threw original together in about 2 hours so its still a work in
> progress but should be fairly comprehensive for identifying site
> conditions...)
> Braden
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Braden Trauth <
> omvalleypermaculture at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>    For What this is worth, I created a questionnaire for some folks that I
> will be training to do Permaculture/Sustainable development in Morocco for
> a week in October (not a full PDC since they didn't have time). Anyways, I
> created this questionnaire for their contact/host in Morocco to get an idea
> of what they will be getting into and so I can train them as appropriately
> as possible, since I won't be on the ground with them.
>    Anyways, it could also be used for some site pre-reconasance before
> heading to a location. Feel free to spread it around, add to it, etc....
> Maybe someone already has one rolling as well. Some of this info can be
> found on line, but I've found some places just don't have the info out
> there, which is what I've found in Haiti and thus makes it a bit
> challenging to know the parameters of the site we are working with and thus
> research is critical.
> Braden Trauth
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Jane Gunningham <janegunningham at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Thanks for coordinating this, Monica.
> I'm a bit swamped right now, but I know I owe some emails to folks. Would
> appreciate reminders though.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Monica Ibacache <
> monica at beyondorganicdesign.com> wrote:
>
> Hello All!
>
> I have added Koreen Brennan to this list.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Tiffany Grell <permyfany at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks For the Patience Everyone!  This is indeed the full Email List for
> the international Permaculture group with no bouncing emails!! Yay!  Sorry
> for all of the junk emails today!!
>
>
>
> Welcome To The International Permaculture Group to all the new people
> added!!  I have added all interested parties now. Please use this updated
> list for sending future emails to this group.  I don't know how to start a
> new thread with these emails, but for someone that can please do. I have
> left all of our past correspondences for everyone to see what has been done
> so far!  I look forward to everyone continuing this discussion!
> Tiffany
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM, rico <rico at i-permaculture.org> wrote:
>
> hey all,
>
> sorry for such a delay in joining in. i do not have net or phone access on
> my land yet. i'll be back on the road on 1st oct., thus more regular after
> that.
>
> great to see that there is the start of a conversation. really appreciate
> tiffany taking notes as the discussions happened at NAPC and laying out
> what had been discussed in her e-mail. once we get all those interested in
> this broad topic into this conversation i'd love to see some process by
> which we come we divide into specific topic discussions/work groups, agree
> to outcomes from these conversations/work (some topics express the outcome
> itself), from which we can map out how to reach them.
>
> Tiffany, can you let us know who is working with you on 1 & 2 of your
> list? i would like to be involved iin the ethics discussion. i wrote an
> article about this and it is a foundational part of the i-pc curriculum.
>
> i am very interested in a deeper involvement in #s 5, 6,7,& 8, with some
> level of engagement/contribution with #s 1,2,3,& 4. i have no attachment
> with how this group proceeds and am happy to contribute as best i can.
>
> as to IPI (Itinerant Permaculture Institute) tiffany and i still need to
> discuss the great inputs we got from a discussion at NAPC. the core of its
> 'reason to act' is #7 in our list, with #s 6 and 7 being key functions of
> IPI, and all the rest aspects of services provided. there looks, from
> tiffany's list, that there is great overlap with the focus of this group
> and IPI. i am happy if any or all in this group wish to engage that forming
> model (IPI). i am fine if no one is. i do not see IPI and this group in any
> sort of competition or being propietary with any of what we discuss. i am
> happy to share what we have discussed so far with IPI and its very nascent
> form/structure.
>
> with respect,        rico
>
>
> Rico Zook
> www.i-permaculture.org
>
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Scott Pittman wrote:
>
>          I certainly don’t mind adding this other group, the list of
> discussion items seems appropriate!  I don’t speak for this group.
>
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
>
>
>
> "To change something build a new model that makes the existing model
> obsolete"  Buckminster Fuller
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Tiffany Grell [mailto:permyfany at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:32 AM
> *To:* Braden Trauth
> *Cc:* Carol Christensen; Louis Alemayehu; Monica Biz; Scott Pittman;
> Jillian Hovey; Jane Gunningham; Denise MacDonald; Ashley Monk; Nava Isham;
> Gerardo Gonzalez; Michael Pilarski; Andrea Holker; Joyce Miller; Jeremy
> Aurswald; Rei Falvo; Blair Frank; Brad Krandlex; Chuck Marsh; Rico Zook; Jeremiah
> Kidd; Keri Evjy; Maren Heiberg
> *Subject:* Re: Jillian is now included.Greetings from New York City!
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have the list for the International Permaculture Working group, and I am
> wondering if I should add it on to this one, or create a separate list.  It
> would seem to fit to all be on the same conversation, if so I can add them
> on and restart the conversation.
>
>  In addition to that maybe I could share some of the goals that we came
> up in the working group that we were hoping to discuss how we could
> accomplish and then a little about the small group of us who are tackling a
> small part of that goal.
>  The list of goals for the working group are as follows:
>
>  1. Compile and Create Best Practices for International PC Development
> work
>  2. Document International PC Longer term failures and successes to track
> trends and compile best practice info
>  3. Database International PC sites
>  4. Database PC practitioners who are doing International PC Development
> work
>  5. Create shared curriculum for International PC Development work, and
> compile locally appropriate resources. (pictoral)
>  6. Train PC workers with most effective, and culturally sensitive
> approaches to development and aid work
>  7. Create support structure and organization for Int'l PC workers
>  8. Create apprenticeship and mentorship opportunities for new Int'l
> PC'ers
>  9. Compile possible funders and sources of revenue for Int'l PC projects
>  10. Start by having mini workshops via skype or other forum about ideas
> (gaia was going to open a blackboard site)
>
>  A small group of us decided to start tackling this list with #1 and #2
> and from there proceed to more lofty goals.  We have decided to work
> together to compile both ethics and best practices of some of the most
> prominent permaculture development workers, and both stories of what has
> succeeded and what has failed in such projects.  We hope to use this to
> create a workbook.. and perhaps more.. We believe that one bad project or
> teacher could create a stain for our movement of development workers, and
> that permaculture offers a uniquely effective solution for development.
> So we hope that creating standards and best practices that we can help to
> turn out well trained, culturally sensitive, effective international
> workers.
>
>  We are doing a crowd-funding so that we can fund our mission, and have
> gotten some prominent permies to donate products and services that we can
> use to fund this idea which we think is a very useful resource for the
> community.  We are reaching out to get more donations of products or
> services for this campaign.  If you or anyone you know might want to
> support us, it would be really appreciated.
>
>  We are planning to send out a few rounds of surveys to get peoples
> ideas, and if you think that you might have something to add to this please
> let me know so that I can get a survey out to you as well.  In addition to
> that if you can give me names and contacts of people who you think would
> have good ideas about this topic and who have been active in Int'l
> development based PC, it would be much appreciated.
>
>  In addition to that Rico and I will be actively involved in trying to
> move forward in Itinerant PC.  I will let him give a plug for that as soon
> as we add the rest of the group to this conversation.
>
>  Thanks for Being a part of this exciting conversation and I am excited
> to hear what comes out of it
>  XXX Tiffany!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Braden Trauth <
> omvalleypermaculture at gmail.com> wrote:
> Likewise,
>    It was great meeting everyone and catching up with old friends and
> teachers. Maybe Rico and the folk he is working with would like to share a
> bit more about the work they are doing with the Iternant Permaculture
> Institute (was that the name?) I figure it could present a good opportunity
> to help develop the dialogue and share. Personally, I'm still working on
> getting details about our Research site in Haiti up on my website.
> Unfortunately I've been slammed since returning getting ready for
> presenting to our City Council in Cincinnati about Urban Ag. around the
> city.
>     I'll be heading back down to Haiti at the end of the month and I know
> that if anyone finds themselves down there the students I'm working with
> would love to share what they are doing and learn from any
> experience/knowledge you have to share. They are 1.5 hrs south of Port Au
> Prince at near the top of the mountains on the road from Leogane to Jacmel.
> Let me know if you want their contact info.
>     The work they are doing could provide good support for grant writing
> to get more work started in Haiti and elsewhere in the mountain tropics.
> I know I was able to share information to some of my Cincy PDC students who
> wrote a grant with it for their solar Cookstove (which is the best one I've
> come across, honestly) for the UN and received a $70,000 grant from them
> for developing it in regards to clean cookstoves for the 3 billion people
> who still cook with wood. You can learn more at GoSunStove.com
> <http://gosunstove.com/>.
>  Anyways, great meeting everyone and looking forward to the ongoing
> conversation
>  Braden
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Carol Christensen <cchris at tds.net> wrote:
>  Wonderful convergence – thank you to everyone.  On the international
> scene, if anyone is involved in Guinea, West Africa, my friend Helen
> Bond, not a permie, but doing amazing things to clean the water, provide
> schools and gardens – would be a good contact.  Here is her site to learn
> more  https://www.facebook.com/MRCBenkadiProject
>
> Hope to join some of you as a volunteer sometime on one of your
> humanitarian ventures!
>
> Carol Christensen
> 608-516-5684
> WI
>
> *From:* Louis Alemayehu [mailto:alemayehu.arts at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:31 AM
> *To:* Monica Biz
> *Cc:* Scott Pittman; Jillian Hovey; Jane Gunningham; Denise MacDonald; Ashley
> Monk; Nava Isham; Gerardo Gonzalez; Michael Pilarski; Andrea Holker; Carol
> Christensen; Joyce Miller; Jeremy Aurswald; Rei Falvo; Blair Frank; Brad
> Krandlex; Chuck Marsh; Rico Zook; Jeremiah Kidd; Tiffany Grell; Keri Evjy;
> Braden Trauth; Maren Heiberg
> *Subject:* Re: Jillian is now included.Greetings from New York City!
>
>   Hello to all.  This is just to let you know that I have read this email
> and am full of gratitude that I got to meet you all.  I look forward to
> continued planning, dreaming, acting in the interest of Mother Earth and
> all of her vital systems.
> Sincerely,
> Louis Alemayehu
> 2000 Seabury Ave. South
> Minneapolis, Minnesota
> 55406
> 612.235.1938
>
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Monica Biz <monica at beyondorganicdesign.com>
> wrote:
>  Hola to all!
>
> So wonderful to meet you :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:03 PM, "Scott Pittman" <scott at permaculture.org>
> wrote:
>
>  Hello everyone, a note to connect us all and to continue the discussion
> that we skimmed over at the Convergence.  I am interested in continuing
> this discussion and would welcome anyone’s ideas for content to start.  I
> keep getting Jillian’s email back, does any one have a good email for her?
> Jillian Hovey <jillian at permaculture.net>
>
> I enjoyed you all!
>
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
>
> "To change something build a new model that makes the existing model
> obsolete"  Buckminster Fuller
>
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> *Steve Hart*
> Ecology Architect
> Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Built Environments
> skype: stevenlawrencehart
> Permaculture Global Design: www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
> The Permaculture college of Europe. www.permaculturecollege.eu
> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
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Kia ora

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*Steve Hart*
Ecology Architect
Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Built Environments
skype: stevenlawrencehart
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The Permaculture college of Europe. www.permaculturecollege.eu
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