[permaculture] the permaculture army

deston denniston cobbuilder at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 14 12:22:12 EDT 2013


When I was in the US Army I used to daydream, in the .12 seconds of free time I was rationed for such activities, that instead of weapons we'd have shovels, in stead of machine guns, a pair of loppers. And instead of playing war, we would be working orchards.

Turns out I wasn't alone- since august of last year 16 veterans have traded itchy trigger fingers for a green thumbs at VETS_CAFE permaculture trainings. We want to expand our network and aim for 50 more vets by the end of this year to go through our program. Weve helped 2 veterans start small permaculture farms and want to add two more farms to the list in the next year. We've got 3 vets with college credit taking the course and want to up that to 20.

And then we want to train a cadre of vets to do what they asked for- to go back to the middle east, to Iraq, Afghanistan,  and to be of some service. Ive heard it form more than half the vets Ive worked with "WHY ARENT WE SENDING PERMACULTURE TO AFGHANISTAN?" When they see what we can do they know immediately that some atonement is possible. After being lied to and used, they are recognizing a place to make and ethical stand and actually care for the people. 

Im glad to be part of this awakening. Please support our cause: http://kck.st/V3FYUX

Peace,



Deston Denniston, M.S., C.P.I. 

Steward, Abundance Permaculture Consulting

www.abundancepermaculture.com

(360) 673-2124

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   1. Re: The people of Tibet need help now - Boing Boing (Eisenhauer)
   2. Re: The people of Tibet need help now - Boing Boing (venaurafarm)
   3. North American Permaculture Convergence - Coming    soon!
      (Michael Pilarski)


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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:57:32 -0400
From: "Eisenhauer" <eisenhauerdesign at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The people of Tibet need help now - Boing
    Boing
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The writings of Chris Hedges and Naomi Klein give a good view/account of the
two competing cultures, one of nurture, the other of extraction that have
been at work in humanity throughout history.  Our current time is truly
horrendous and intolerable.  I have to agree that the only way out of this
trap is to do the good work that one can find according to ones talents in
supporting life, education and beauty.  For me any other path is a
capitulation to the profit before people program which pushes ignorance
poverty and disease for the enrichment of a few lost souls.  We must find
the eye of the storm and spread it's tranquility.
Steven.




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[mailto:permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of venaurafarm
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:52 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The people of Tibet need help now - Boing Boing


On 3/13/2013 8:53 PM, Koreen Brennan wrote:
> Thank you for sharing these thoughts and insights, Scott and Linda.

I would like to express my appreciation as well, magnificent writing, and
thinking. Nearly all of us have our own stories to tell, what we have seen
and heard during our lifetimes that illustrates the senselessness of the
behavior of certain elements of society in countries around the world. For
me, it continues to be difficult to believe that it could have happened at
all. I cringe when some people I talk to about this just say, "well, this
has been going on for thousands of years".

The obvious challenge is for us to try and create ways to help oppressed
people wherever they are, to reach them with presentations of the best that
permaculture has to offer, for them to learn and put into practice where
they live, to empower and lift them up so they will become self sufficient,
independent and self reliant within local communities they create together.




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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:14:18 -0400
From: venaurafarm <venaurafarm at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The people of Tibet need help now - Boing
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On 3/14/2013 9:57 AM, Eisenhauer wrote:
> The writings of Chris Hedges and Naomi Klein give a good view/account of the
> two competing cultures, one of nurture, the other of extraction that have
> been at work in humanity throughout history.  Our current time is truly
> horrendous and intolerable.  I have to agree that the only way out of this
> trap is to do the good work that one can find according to ones talents in
> supporting life, education and beauty.  For me any other path is a
> capitulation to the profit before people program which pushes ignorance
> poverty and disease for the enrichment of a few lost souls.  We must find
> the eye of the storm and spread it's tranquility.
> Steven.

Very well said, Steven. We need to go and do our good work. Onward 
relentless and ignore obstacles imposed on us along the way.



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees at yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] North American Permaculture Convergence -
    Coming    soon!
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Hi Bob,

Did you see this convergence announcement yet?? I remember you were interested the last time we were talking about it.? you are near the center of the US...

?
Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds

 
North American Permaculture Convergence - Coming soon!
. 
Letter from Michael Pilarski and Koreen Brennan re. a North
American (US and Canada) Permaculture Convergence
?
Greetings, fellow permaculturists and world changers,
?
We respectfully invite you to participate in the first ever
North American Permaculture Convergence. There have been many discussions about
having such an event for many years. We are initiating the process but invite
everyone to come on board. We think most people would agree that it makes sense
for the convergence to serve Canada as well as the US and for the convergence
to rotate around the US/Canada. 
?
Are there things that we can accomplish on a national scale?
Absolutely! We have been meeting regionally long enough to have created some
workable patterns that could be used on a broader scale. We can do some
strategic coordination, exchange experience and share resources. This is a
chance to meet and network with pc folks from other regions. We can talk about
certification, mentoring, networking, design, consulting, guilds, research,
publishing and much more.? We can
explore how to increase the impact of our profession on a national level about
sustainability, healing the environment, social and economic justice. How can
permaculture be more effective in serving our communities and the Earth!
?
We intend to create channels by which people who can't, or
don't want to, travel to participate and we respect that viewpoint as well. We
will use on line conference tools and other technology to ensure that anyone
who wants to, will have a voice and can participate. 
?
Our starting point is to assemble a group of respected
permaculturists from around the US and Canada to act in an advisory capacity
and to spread the word to their networks.
So far, 14 people have agreed to be on the advisory council:
Peter Bane,Permaculture Activist, Bloomington, Indiana.
Brandy Gallagher,
OUR Ecovillage, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada
Jude Hobbs, Cascadia Permaculture Institute, Oregon.
Penny Livingston,Regenerative Design Institute, California.
Loren Luyendyk,Global Permaculture Design Group, Santa Barbara,
California. 
Chuck Marsh,Useful
Plants Nursery, Southeast Permaculture Convergence, Earthaven Ecovillage, North
Carolina.
Patricia Michael,Patricia Michael Design, Austin, Texas
Jerome Osentowski,Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute, Colorado.
Michael Pilarski,Friends of the Trees Society, Northwest Permaculture Convergence, Inland
Northwest Permaculture Guild, Montana. 
Scott Pittman,Permaculture Institute USA, New Mexico.
Wes Roe & Margie Bushman,Santa Barbara Permaculture Network, Southern California
Wayne Weiseman,Permaculture Project LLC, Carbondale, Illinois
Paula Westmoreland,Ecological Gardens, Permaculture Research Institute Cold
Climate.? Twin Cities, Minnesota.
Of course there will be many more
with representation from all the regions.? We are just getting started. Our intent is that the advisory
committee is largely composed of elders in the movement. 
?
Next step would be to form a steering committee of competent
people who are willing to do the work, including tech-savvy people who can make
the event accessible to all the people who can?t make it in person. Next is to
select a venue and assemble a regional team to do the local groundwork. For
decision-making we will look at the Acorn model that Jon Young talks about in
his 8 Shields work, consult Starhawk?s Empowerment Five-Fold-Path and other
participatory methods. We would suggest that the convergence is sponsored by as
many pc organizations as possible, rather than just one. There will need to be
a strong hosting group in whatever region hosts the first convergence. Some
time back it was proposed that different regional convergences take turns
hosting the national convergence. 
?
The timing and venue are unknown since the process is just
getting underway.? Most people on
the above list think we should aim for 2014, partly due to lead time and partly
to not conflict with the International Convergence in Cuba in 2013. Pilarski
favors a grass-roots venue which is already implementing permaculture, rather
than paying for a standard conference hotel. As an example, I am currently
dialoguing with the Ecovillage Center (Albert Bates, et al) at The Farm in
Summertown, Tennessee which has hosted many permaculture workshops, Gaia
University events and the 2009 Bioregional Congress. Other venue suggestions
welcomed.
?
Who is interested in helping get this off the ground?? Let us know.? Feedback? Venue suggestions?? Who has ideas on setting up systems of interactive fora to
enable a lot of people to have input? The goal is a broad-based group of
hundreds of permaculturists working together to make this an energetic and
synergistic event.
?
Care of Earth, Care of people, Fair share,
?
Michael Pilarski 
friendsofthetrees at yahoo.com? 406-741-5809 Rocky Mountain time zone. 
?
Koreen Brennancory8570 at yahoo.com 
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Waldrop <bwaldrop1952 at att.net>
To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The people of Tibet need help now - Boing Boing

We know the present world system is not sustainable.

Sooner or later it will crash unless we can manage an intelligent descent.
Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
http://www.ipermie.net -- How to permaculture your urban lifestyle




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From: Dieter Brand <diebrand at yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thu, March 14, 2013 6:13:44 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The people of Tibet need help now - Boing Boing

Larry, Linda, Scott et al.,

I agree that we are moving towards a new awareness. But I?m not sure that it 
will be an improvement on the previous awareness. On the contrary, all signs 
point to a deterioration of the situation. Comparing the prevailing mood during 
my youth in the 60s and 70s with today, I cannot but feel very pessimistic.

In Europe everything is disintegrating. In the past, many believed in a peaceful 
and united Europe where nationalism would cease to play an important role. My 
generation believed in ideals of peace, tolerance, social justice and the fight 
against fascism and racism. Today, many see nationalism as the way forward and 
expression of fascism and racism have become commonplace. Even 20 years ago, 
that would have been unimaginable. Having grown up after the greatest 
bloodletting of all times during WWII, my generation considered that war must 
never again take place. Many of us have engaged in the peace movement and 
accepted considerable personal sacrifices. 


Today, as the memories of the war recedes, all of this is forgotten and we are 
despised as dangerous pacifist dreamers or ignorant do-gooders. Old national 
rivalries are rekindled. Reading some Internet discussions, it feels more like 
1913 than 2013. Immigrants are attacked for allegedly exploiting our welfare 
systems. The fight for resources leads to neocolonialism: the Chinese buy up 
land everywhere and the West tries to control the World through its 
corporations. War is again seen as a solution, especially if it involves bombing 
villages in faraway places from a safe distance like in a computer game. Am I 
exaggerating? Then let?s listen to one of the combatants who must know: 
England?s Prince Henry said after his deployment as fighter pilot in Afghanistan 
that ?it was like a computer game.? Western nations are now developing unmanned 
drones and robots to fight foreign wars without direct human intervention.
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