[permaculture] true-to-type seed exchange
Lawrence F. London, Jr.
venaurafarm at bellsouth.net
Wed Feb 1 18:38:29 EST 2012
On 2/1/2012 12:25 PM, Chris Carnevale wrote:
> I would like to participate in your proposed "true-to-type" seed exchange.
> Perhaps you could set up an invite-only Google Doc as an inventory and
> folks could add their name, contact info, and what seeds they have
> available. That would be a great resource. Also it would be good for
> folks to be cognizant of pest/pathogen transmission issues. I will
> certainly participate.
On 2/1/2012 2:11 PM, Michael Pilarski wrote:
> I am interested in a seed exchange with an invite-only Google Doc I
> tried to get onto the one that Chris C just set up and it wouldn't
> let me in because I am not authorized. If anyone gets a google doc
> seed exchange going please put me on the authorized to access list.
> I grow and save large amounts of seed every year. I have a seed list
> if anyone is interested.
On 2/1/2012 2:44 PM, Jason Gerhardt wrote:
> That is an awesome idea! I think we permaculturalists need more
avenues for useful plant exchange. A live plant exchange would be
excellent as well.
> In general, I think subtropical and tropical fruits produce closer to
type from seed, peaches and apricots too, which helps explain Fukuoka's
methods> more. I would be skeptical of plums, cherries, and apples from
seed due to multiple cross pollination sources being very frequent in
many areas i.e. wild cherries, plums, crabapples. It is possible to get
them true to type, but needs control and careful management, likely hand
> I am beginning to wonder what happens to trees longer term by
planting the graft below grade, and leaving it unpruned. I usually plant
my grafts about an inch or so below grade as in my very windy climate it
makes for a much> more resilient tree. St. Lawrence Nursery in N.Y.
recommends this planting method for cold climates too. I have been
minimal pruning plants like this so I can't say how well they do without
manipulation. I think I will leave a few new trees alone to watch what
they do over the years when growing on a combination of
> their own roots and on rootstock.
I have just added the following email ID's with read and edit
Chris c.s.carnevale at gmail.com
Sal sals3 at cox.net
Shawn shawntisdell at gmail.com
Georg g.parlow at gmx.at
Luke luke at groaction.com
Jason jasongerhardt at gmail.com
Michael friendsofthetrees at yahoo.com
Lawrence lfljvenaura at gmail.com
....to all of the following Google Docs Documents and Spreadsheets
and Google Sites:
Read the "Project Discussion: Goals and Means" Document to see if you
like those ideas or have anything to add. - LL
Seed and Plant Resources
copies of any finished or works-in-progress documents are kept in this
repository for public viewing and edit sharing with participants, with
links to any Google Spreadsheets and Docs, forums, blogs an websites.
Google Docs Spreadsheets:
Seed and Plant Sources
Shawn Tisdell, owner
True To Type Seed Exchange
Chris Carnevale, owner
Google Docs Documents:
Please create any other Documents needed and share with the rest of us
as you see fit.
Seed Exchange TTT
This is the source document for the TTT spreadsheet that I use.
Project Discussion: Goals and Means
add any ideas you have about the projects we share, suggestions, wishes,
goals, mission, purpose & uses.
These are just working documents containing source material to be used
elsewhere, NOT for public viewing (they contain a lot of borrowed
material from various websites that can be added to the spreadsheets; no
intent to copy anything other than individual or company names with
Seed and Plant Resources 4 all parts
Seed and Plant Resources 4 part4
Seed and Plant Resources 4 part3
Seed and Plant Resources 4 part2
Seed and Plant Resources 4 part1
Seed and Plant Sourcelist 3
Seed and Plant Sourcelist 2
Seed and Plant Sourcelist 1
This is another working document I maintain that contains a compilation
of some of the above source material, available for public viewing but
is not a finished product. Edit this as you see fit. I add everything
new that I find to it just for convenient storage and access:
a subset of:
I am also working on a biointensive farming (covers all biointensive
aspects of gardening, farming, landscaping and permaculture) site with
an array of useful resources. If anyone would like to participate, use
or contribute to this please let me know.
A subset for edit sharing if anyone is interested:
Garden Hand Tool Sourcelist and Biointensive Gardening Guide
Garden Hand Tool Sourcelist
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