[permaculture] Permaculture and horses

Neil Bertrando neilbertrando at gmail.com
Thu May 26 19:51:51 EDT 2011


Hi Cory,

I recommend looking at Peter Donovan's website managingwholes.org  If you
follow the tabs on the sidebar there are several examples with horses.  You
could try contacting the practitioners directly regarding their experiences
and recommendations.

Here's two articles linked to from managing wholes
 Thomas Elpel http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/wtrampling.htm
<http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/wtrampling.htm>the Knox's in Ukiah
http://managingwholes.com/knox.htm

<http://managingwholes.com/knox.htm>You might want to use the Holistic
Management Handbook as a reference for setting up and managing horse pasture
rotation systems.
http://holisticmanagement.org/store//page1.html

I'm interested in good forage/fodder species for horses as well.  Trees and
Shrubs in particular.  My very basic understanding is that horse's diets are
much more restrictive than goats, sheep, or cattle.

Any specific tree or shrub species to avoid would be helpful as well.

We have a horse but not enough land to rotate him, so we've set aside a
'sacrifice paddock'.  I'd like to supplement our feed costs with on-site
fodder production from a windbreak or intercrop planting.

We've devised some systems thoughts for this 'sacrifice paddock' as well:
runoff surface, firebreak, view corridor, and potential site for shallow
geothermal well/storage system.  Any other thoughts?


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:31 PM, wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk
<wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> I am afraid that the course was so information intensive that some parts of
> it were simply just overload.
> I do not have any experience in horses myself, so I think that was one of
> those occasions when by brain took an opportunity for a break to assimilate
> all the other new knowledge that I was receiving during those two weeks.
> This is why I included the three links, hoping that I might also have found
> some of his words of wisdom on his website.  Still I will keep looking and
> let you know if I can find any more.
> It looks like I am am going to be working extensively with horses over the
> late summer so I will keep your questions in mind when that time arises.
>
> Chris
>
> --- On Sat, 5/14/11, Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture and horses
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:14 AM
> > Thanks Chris, I did read those.
> >  What did Geoff say he used horses for? How do they
> > integrate?  We have our own ideas and a unique situation
> > here (where horses are an extremely strong part of the
> > culture), but I'm just gathering every piece of data I can
> > right now as part of the research process.
> > C
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/13/11, wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk
> > <wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk
> > <wenshidi at yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture and horses
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 4:38 AM
> >
> > Dear Cory,
> >
> > During PDC, Geoff Lawton talked a lot about how he thought
> > that horses were an integral part of a permaculture farm and
> > indeed he does have a few down at Zaytuna.
> > I was hoping that I would have found some of his comments
> > on his website but a search did instead reveal three
> > interesting articles bu three other writers.
> > I am sure that you will find them interesting reading.
> > Do a search for the term horse on this page and check out
> > the first three results.
> >
> > http://permaculture.org.au/
> >
> > Hope that this helps
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [permaculture] Permaculture and horses
> > > To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org,
> > "Open Permaculture" <permaculture at openpermaculture.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 5:46 AM
> > > Question:  Does anybody here do
> > > permaculture with horses on range? Or do you know of
> > someone
> > > who does do that?  Or Holistic Management with
> > horses?
> > > C
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