[permaculture] Used keyline plow for sale?

Glenn Gall glenngall at gmail.com
Mon May 9 22:44:56 EDT 2011


Gents & Ladies --

I would like to purchase a keyline plow, but need to minimize the cost, so
thank you for this discussion.  Knowing little about tractor farming, I do
have a few questions.

Darren, you mention only needing a bar and shanks.  Are coulters necessary?
They're always included in quotes.  Do they reduce strain on the shank or
the force needed?  What is their purpose?

I have received quotes from both Purdy and MFI.  As far as the edge of one
rep over another, the two quotes I have are fairly close, but were sent at
different times, so I can't really judge.  I can vouch for Mr. Purdy's
helpfulness, as he has provided considerable insight into many aspects of
the plow, so I'm not yet willing to say "case closed."

Glenn



> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:56:03 +1000
> From: Darren Doherty <darren at permaculture.biz>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Used keyline plow for sale?
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> G'day,
>
> You'd be very lucky on that one as there just aren't that many in the US:
> they're available 2nd hand here in Australia but not that common...the
> cheapest Keyline plow is when you get a suitable 4" RHS tool bar and buy
> some Yeomans Shanks from Royal
> Purdy<http://www.clearchoicepastures.blogspot.com/>or Market Farming
> (PA)....Otherwise get one from Australia where you can
> find them listed at Farm.hub  <http://www.farmmachinerysales.com.au/>.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darren
>
> On 6 May 2011 01:35, Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Anybody know of a used keyline plow for sale in the US?
> > C
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> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 21:29:44 -0400
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Used keyline plow for sale?
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> On 5/5/2011 11:35 AM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> > Anybody know of a used keyline plow for sale in the US?
>
> I don't knowho many times I have posted this info but:
> get a new Yeomans from Market Farm Implement in Friedans Pennsylvania
> http://marketfarm.com  They are not that expensive and can be mailed
> UPS. Forget complicated expensive toolbars for it and just get off the
> shelf components from Roll A Cone Mfg. in Tulia Texas. Size the Yeomans
> components and the accompanying toolbar to the capacity of your tractor,
> i.. 45hp to 70 hp, 1 to 3 26" shanks, cat 1 or cat 2 3 point hitch,
> depending the type and condition of your soil. I wish Darren would start
> promoting US dealers for Yeomans and alternate toolbars
> with accurate info related. Eh, Darren? :-) If we don't do business with
> MFI they might stop carrying Yeomans then we would be totally SOOL.
> Case closed.
>
> LL
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> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 21:40:14 -0400
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Used keyline plow for sale?
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> On 5/5/2011 9:29 PM, Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> > On 5/5/2011 11:35 AM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> >> Anybody know of a used keyline plow for sale in the US?
> >
> > I don't knowho many times I have posted this info but:
> > get a new Yeomans from Market Farm Implement in Friedans Pennsylvania
> > http://marketfarm.com  They are not that expensive and can be mailed
> > UPS. Forget complicated expensive toolbars for it and just get off the
> > shelf components from Roll A Cone Mfg. in Tulia Texas. Size the Yeomans
> > components and the accompanying toolbar to the capacity of your tractor,
> > i.. 45hp to 70 hp, 1 to 3 26" shanks, cat 1 or cat 2 3 point hitch,
> > depending the type and condition of your soil. I wish Darren would start
> > promoting US dealers for Yeomans and alternate toolbars
> > with accurate info related. Eh, Darren? :-) If we don't do business with
> > MFI they might stop carrying Yeomans then we would be totally SOOL.
> > Case closed.
>
> Yopu can see pictures of my 3 26"shank Yeomns mounted on a RollACone 8"
> toolbar with category 2 hitch intended for a 70 horsepower tractor.
>
> Lawrence London > Tractor Equipment
> https://picasaweb.google.com/dirt.4arm/TractorEquipment#
> There are pictures of other interesting implements for raised bd farming
> that Eric Kindberg designed and fabricated, tested and used in market
> farming.
>
> LL
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> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:01:23 +1000
> From: Darren Doherty <darren at permaculture.biz>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Used keyline plow for sale?
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> G'day Lawrence,
>
> Unless I am mistaken that is exactly what I did: I recommended either
> Market Farming or Royal Purdy supply shanks and local frames!! So
> don't know what tree you're barking up there matey! I don't know
> anybody else that did Market Farming's job better than us in 2007 as
> we hoiked a fully optioned plow from NY all the way to Wisconsin and
> down to route 40 then across to CA with our family of 5 and Yeomans
> rep Keith Ryan in a 5 seater...tight trip that was on the Keyline
> Design tour back then so go real easy suggesting the locals are doing
> a sterling job in getting this equisite tool out there....IMO the
> local marketing of these implements has been breathtakingly
> limited....At least Royal has a website (which I linked) and he has
> sponsored both myself and Geoff Lawton (though Geoff doesn't do
> Keyline) to do workshops in the US.
>
> As for the Yeoman's the toolbars that they make are designed to
> accomodate the full suite of equipment and have features that improve
> their user-friendliness, a factor that one would only understand when
> owning and operating one. Allan Yeomans and crew put a lot of
> feedback-based thought into their frames and when you use them you
> appreciate this. As we say the only bad thing about the Yeomans Plow
> frames is the paint-job! The frames that I have seen in the US have
> been a bit light on compared with the Yeomans models, especially the
> cross beams. I can't recall whether they use 1/2" wall thickness on
> the 4" RHS or not like Yeomans do.
>
> Yours & Growing,
>
> Darren J. Doherty,
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> As I said before, if people do not know about Market Farm Implement
> (that's what its name is, not Market Farming), have accurate information
> about them and do business with them to acquire Yeomans tooling then
> they may not carry that line any more. They go to a lot of trouble and
> expense to import Yeomans plows and have become the easiest, more
> reliable source for them in the USA. Is there another US company you can
> telephone and securely, with confidence, order Yeoman's equipment on the
> spot for a non-artificially-inflated price, and have it delivered to
> your property within a week or so plus buy spare parts for it whenever
> you need them? If so please let us know as it would be good for people
> to have more than one option. As for toolbars, Roll-A-Cone, Mfg. will
> fabricate any configuration you specify for an unbelievably low price,
> single, double toolbars, with or without level adjusting pneumatic
> tires, whatever you want. Keep it simple and don't buy more than you
> actually need. I have seen pictures of the very fine Yeomans toolbars
> and mounting accessories and they are very good. Where
> are you going to find an importer for them in the US and for a resonable
> price. There's no replacement foe the Yeomans but toolbars are another
> matter. The toolbar system you need to have depends on what you're using
> the Yeomans for and how often your use it. You may need Yeomans
> accessories for it and will need to import them or have them made in the
> US, if that is possible or fabricate an alternate. Look at the pictures
> of Eric Kindberg's equipment and you will see the possibilities. Complex
> implementdesign and fabrication is done homebrew, on-farm all the time
> here in the US. Noone has come up with anything close to the Yeomans
> plow, though.
>
> Contact info for US Yeomans plow and accessory dealer:
>
> Market Farm Implement
> 257 Fawn Hollow Road
> Friedens, Pa. 15541
> Phone: (814)-443-1931
> http://www.marketfarm.com/
>
> US toolbar system manufacturer for Yeomans plows:
>
> Roll-A-Cone Manufacturing Company
> Phone:  (806) 668-4722
> Fax:  (806) 668-4725
> Mail:  7655 Roll-A-Cone Road,  Tulia, TX 79088
> E-mail:  jbyrd_61 at midplains.coop
> http://www.roll-a-cone.com/
> Phone: (814)-443-1931
> Roll-A-Cone is a manufacturer and distributor of quality farm equipment.
>  Our product line ranges from shank holders and plow frame hitches to
> 65-foot plows with every attachment imaginable.  Most of our products
> are manufactured right here in our 5-acre shop in Tulia, Texas!
>
> Pictures of a 3 shank Yeomans plow array mounted on an 8' Roll-A-Cone
> toolbar system:
>
> Lawrence London Picasaweb Gallery: Tractor Equipment
> https://picasaweb.google.com/dirt.4arm/TractorEquipment#
>
> There are also pictures in that gallery of other interesting implements
> for raised bd farming that Eric Kindberg designed and fabricated, tested
> and used in market farming.
>
>


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