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Wed May 4 18:08:57 EDT 2011


end through, rotate the wire to another opening so it is =
grabbing=20
mesh, and pull the short end through back toward you. Tie and continue. =
Saves a=20
person, and that counts for a lot. Although it may be less fun, not =
having a=20
partner on the other side of the mesh.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;How large?&nbsp; I've seen 10K =
gallons at=20
least, hand-built...that's pretty<BR>&gt;large.&nbsp; More than that and =
a pond=20
or multiple tanks might be more<BR>&gt;efficient...?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yeah, I am looking at 10 - 20K gallons =
storage,=20
would love to have it, but labor and cost are the limiting =
considerations. Ponds=20
are hard here due to evaporation factors (cold dry montane) and the fact =
that on=20
my land you hit bedrock basalt within 18 inches / half a metre. So, any =
pond=20
would have to bermed up, requiring the purcahse of fill. There's no =
slope to=20
take advantage of. Love the idea of getting it done in a day, though. =
Hire a=20
backhoe, buy some fill,&nbsp;line it&nbsp;and be done with =
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kirby wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;As far as I know the tanks can get =
pretty=20
big.&nbsp; 20' in diameter by 9' =3D<BR>&gt;tall (two bands of 5' wide =
remesh=20
overlapped 6") is common here in =3D<BR>&gt;Texas, I believe that comes =
out to=20
around 22,000 gallons.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That&nbsp;capacity would be great for =
my=20
application, Kirby, but too tall for gravity feed off the =
roof.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But if that size is ok structurally, =
something=20
shorter and wider would certainly be okay, too. Good to hear it's=20
feasible.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Krby wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;I think my friend Jack Rowe did not =
use rebar,=20
lath nor chicken wire.&nbsp; =3D<BR>&gt;He tied tar paper to the outside =
of the=20
remesh and plastered right onto =3D<BR>&gt;the tar paper and =
remesh.&nbsp; Then he=20
removed the tar paper and plastered =3D<BR>&gt;the outside.&nbsp; I'll =
have to=20
double check with him.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This sounds very interesting, and I =
hope it's true,=20
but I am having a hard time believing it. I don't see that the plaster =
would=20
have enough to adhere to with just remesh and a tarpaper backing. Could =
you=20
please check with him and get back to the list? The biggest labor effort =
in FC=20
is the tying, so if we could eliminate that, FC would become so much =
more=20
attractive as a building option.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone heard of reinforced expanded =
metal lath that=20
we could use with almost no tying or additional reinforcement? I am =
dreaming=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paul</FONT></DIV>
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