[permaculture] Further Keyline/Yeoman's Plow References

Owen Hablutzel oweniii at ca.rr.com
Tue Jan 18 20:13:05 EST 2011


Neil, and all interested...

Here are two references of broadscale research using contour ripping on 
large areas of New Mexico and Arizona.  Mainly they document the greatly 
decreased surface runoff and decreased erosion from these watersheds. 
Obviously the decrease will be even greater (and the expense less) using an 
actual Yeoman’s plow in conjunction with the specifically ‘amplified 
contours’ of Keyline pattern cultivation.  Whereas merely contour plowing 
can potentially cause an actual increase of runoff and erosion, at least in 
the existing drainage channels (in my experience), by sending even more 
runoff into these outlets than would otherwise reach them.

http://iahs.info/redbooks/a065/065003.pdf

http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/5978/1/IND91001558.pdf

Hat tip to Abe Collins, who alerted me to these two research papers some 
time ago.



In addition there is an excellent profile with photos of Yeoman’s plow 
results from Chris Gill, a rancher also using Holistic Management in west 
Texas, at this LINK:

http://circleranchtx.com/tag/habitatrestoration

Shows not only increased production on rangeland, reduced bare ground, 
etc... but also the effectiveness of using the Yeoman’s plow for brush 
control; creosote (larrea tridentata) in this case.  I can confirm as well 
the effectiveness of using the Yeoman’s plow for reversing creosote brush 
encroachment at large scales, in my experience also in the desert southwest. 
This has impressed the local resource agencies, since brush encroachment is 
something they have yet to develop a very effective and long-term treatment 
for in those parts.

I know that the Texas NRCS (specifically Gary Fuentes, if I recall...) was 
most impressed with Chris Gill’s work (NRCS had initially advised Chris 
against it, but they came around upon seeing the results).  If you are able 
to get Fuentes or the NRCS to talk to the Forest Service about their Yeoman’s/Keyline 
experience in TX, this may help grease the wheel for your NV project, Neil.


Happy Ripping!
Owen



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   2. Re: Yeomans Plow and Keyline references wanted
      (Lawrence F. London, Jr.)
   3. Re: Yeomans plow and keyline references wanted (Jason Gerhardt)


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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:35:20 -0800
From: kirstie stramler <spiggygogo at gmail.com>
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Subject: [permaculture] references for bertrando & the forest service
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hi neil & everybody

elaine ingham's work has become the mainstream science, it's just not yet
being applied as broadly as it could/should be
http://soils.usda.gov/sqi/concepts/soil_biology/biology.html

some great stuff here
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=soil+food+web&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1,5&as_sdtp=on

not much here, as darren pointed out
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=keyline&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0,5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

while you're at it, why not draw up some guidelines for the forest service
to use elsewhere?
i have yet to see a forest service job that doesn't involve pesticide &/or
herbicide
& i have yet to see a forest service building that uses greywater

best to you & your lady
kirstie




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> Hi all,
>
> I have a request for information, network connections, suggestions, and
> reflections.
>
> I'm based in Reno, Nevada, on the East slope of the Sierra Nevada mtns,
> elevation ~4500 ft. lat. 39 degrees N. Winter Wet (Nov-May) precip ~5-10
> inches/year, min temps ~ -10 F, max temps ~110 F.
> I work with a environmental education, service, outreach, and education
> non-profit organization, and we have recently started using a yeomans plow
> and aerobic compost tea brewer as part of our tool kit for ecological
> restoration projects.
>
> Currently, we're working on designing a 'restoration' and invasive weed
> management project with the Forest Service, and we are planning on 
> starting
> with soil renovation and improving hydrologic function as the foundation 
> of
> our design implementation.  To do this, we are combining a few tool sets
> and
> strategies including Permaculture, Keyline Design, and Soil Food Web.  The
> Forest Service has asked us for literature references specific to our
> approaches.  We have some but they are not comprehensive, and we are
> looking
> in particular for any references that examine broad acre landscape
> treatment, restoration to native grasslands or grass-shrub mosaic
> communities, cold arid/brittle environments, and invasive weed management.
>  Also, anything specific to the short and long term results of Keyline
> pattern cultivation treatments with a yeomans plow would be exceptional.
>
> We're providing them with references to the PA Yeomans books, and the
> Geographic Basis of Keyline.  Anything beyond that is much appreciated.
>  This can include contact info for people with similar projects in 
> process.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Towards an ecological society,
> Neil
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:28:17 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Yeomans Plow and Keyline references wanted
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> G'day,
>
> Keyline as a *system* has been remarkably under-researched, though more
> importantly primary producers appreciate its benefits as more often than
> not
> they will listen to another producer than an extensionalist, though of
> course I am generalising.
>
> Best advice I can give you is to look at the following sites:
>
> http://www.marincarbonproject.org/
> http://soilcarboncoalition.org/
> http://managingwholes.com/
> http://www.keylinevermont.com/Welcome.html
>
> Have fun.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darren
>
>
> On 15 January 2011 07:38, Neil Bertrando <neilbertrando at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a request for information, network connections, suggestions, and
> > reflections.
> >
> > I'm based in Reno, Nevada, on the East slope of the Sierra Nevada mtns,
> > elevation ~4500 ft. lat. 39 degrees N. Winter Wet (Nov-May) precip ~5-10
> > inches/year, min temps ~ -10 F, max temps ~110 F.
> > I work with a environmental education, service, outreach, and education
> > non-profit organization, and we have recently started using a yeomans
> plow
> > and aerobic compost tea brewer as part of our tool kit for ecological
> > restoration projects.
> >
> > Currently, we're working on designing a 'restoration' and invasive weed
> > management project with the Forest Service, and we are planning on
> starting
> > with soil renovation and improving hydrologic function as the foundation
> of
> > our design implementation.  To do this, we are combining a few tool sets
> > and
> > strategies including Permaculture, Keyline Design, and Soil Food Web.
>  The
> > Forest Service has asked us for literature references specific to our
> > approaches.  We have some but they are not comprehensive, and we are
> > looking
> > in particular for any references that examine broad acre landscape
> > treatment, restoration to native grasslands or grass-shrub mosaic
> > communities, cold arid/brittle environments, and invasive weed
> management.
> >  Also, anything specific to the short and long term results of Keyline
> > pattern cultivation treatments with a yeomans plow would be exceptional.
> >
> > We're providing them with references to the PA Yeomans books, and the
> > Geographic Basis of Keyline.  Anything beyond that is much appreciated.
> >  This can include contact info for people with similar projects in
> process.
> >
> > Thank you so much,
> > Towards an ecological society,
> > Neil
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> Robert Hart's Forest Garden - a set on Flickr
> London Permaculture > Collections
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/naturewise/sets/72157618526642486/with/3553933296/
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> London Permaculture
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> Robert Hart's Forest Garden
>
> Robert Hart?s original forest garden in Shropshire continues to hold a
> fascination for a wide number of people. Hart?s description of the
> garden in his books and confusion over what happened to the garden
> following his death in March 2000 have both created an aura of mystery
> which haunts references to the place.
>
> Highwood Hill is currently a private residence with no public access to
> the site. The forest garden which Hart created appears to have been
> partly cleared. The remaining elements have been untended and without
> human intervention have proceeded on a path of natural succession. The
> shade of the tree cover has led to a diminution in the under storey,
> although a few fruit bushes are still visible.
>
> Robert Hart's garden survives in his books and in the gardens that
> others have started around the world under his inspiration - it is not
> here.
>
> *************************************** ******
>
> You can read more about the garden's past in these accounts:
>
> An account of a visit by a group of people from Plants For A Future in
> the Summer of 1996 (comments underneath the original account, give some
> information about subsequent developments).
>
> An account by Graham Burnett of a visit by Naturewise to the site in
> July 1997 (with photos).
>
> In September 1997 David Jacke and Eric Toensmeir visited the garden,
> took photographs and made up to date plans. These, and an account of
> their visit can be found in their book Edible Forest Gardens; Volume
> One: Visions & Theory (Chelsea Green: White River Junction, 2005). The
> visit is also referred to briefly in this 2005 interview with David
> Jacke, from Talking Leaves magazine.
>
> In July 1998 some graduates of a permaculture design course run by
> Naturewise visited Robert Hart, a short account by Jascha Rohr is
> available here . This also appears to be when the Iota Pictures video
> Forest Gardening with Robert Hart was shot.
>
> An account of a visit by permaculture teacher Aranya to Robert Hart in
> 1999 and some of the events subsequent to Hart?s death.
>
> Paul Evans visited the garden shortly after Hart?s death in March 2000,
> a short account of which was published in The Guardian.
>
> Allan Shepherd wrote Hart?s Guardian obituary , including brief mention
> of a visit to the Garden before Hart?s death.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0500
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm at bellsouth.net>
To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Yeomans Plow and Keyline references wanted
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On 1/14/2011 3:38 PM, Neil Bertrando wrote:

> Currently, we're working on designing a 'restoration' and invasive weed
> management project with the Forest Service, and we are planning on 
> starting
> with soil renovation and improving hydrologic function as the foundation 
> of
> our design implementation.  To do this, we are combining a few tool sets 
> and
> strategies including Permaculture, Keyline Design, and Soil Food Web.  The
> Forest Service has asked us for literature references specific to our
> approaches.  We have some but they are not comprehensive, and we are 
> looking
> in particular for any references that examine broad acre landscape
> treatment, restoration to native grasslands or grass-shrub mosaic
> communities, cold arid/brittle environments, and invasive weed management.
>   Also, anything specific to the short and long term results of Keyline
> pattern cultivation treatments with a yeomans plow would be exceptional.
>
> We're providing them with references to the PA Yeomans books, and the
> Geographic Basis of Keyline.  Anything beyond that is much appreciated.
>   This can include contact info for people with similar projects in 
> process.

I could write for hours on this topic.
Read the past two dozen posts I sent to this list, soil ecology, soil
testing, remineralization, Brix & nutrient dense foods and more.

I am especially interested in the Yeoman plow and its many uses in
farming and establishing water channeling on all terrain. I have owned
one, a 3-26" shank with extended point system on fixed single toolbar.
Links to pix included below. I would not be without this implement.
Used in conjunction with a Howard Rotavator and a
hiller-bedder-subsoiler/chisel plow shanks (see pix links below) you
will have the ultimate combination of farm implements for 1) water
channeling and distribution 2) raised bed farming and gardening for any
crop.

And you may find useful information in this document that I frequently
update, certainly in the gardening hand tools department:
January 6, 2011 Revision
Gardening Hand Tool Sourcelist
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/documents/gardening-hand-tools.faq
===================================================================
Biointensive Gardening Guide and Farm & Garden Hand Tool Sourcelist
===================================================================
Permanent No-Till Biointensive Double-Dug Raised Bed Garden Preparation
and Handtool Information & Sourcelist
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/documents/gardening-hand-tools.faq

Links to the farm implement pictures:
raised bed cropping system (old info but lots of pix of implements and
raised beds on slopes, curving and on the contour
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/venaurafarm/raisedbeds/

Many articles and links here:
http://ecolandtech.blogspot.com/
http://venaurafarm.blogspot.com/

This is the one you'll be the most interested in:
http://picasaweb.google.com/dirt.4arm/TractorEquipment#

http://picasaweb.google.com/dirt.4arm/VenauraFarm#
field crops in raised beds created with equipment pictured above

http://picasaweb.google.com/dirt.4arm/GardenTools#
hand garden tools I use year round




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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:36:03 -0700
From: Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt at gmail.com>
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Hi Neil,

Reading your post one reference comes to mind.  Long-time permaculture
educator Jerome Osentowski of Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute
made a very good film called "Natural Controls for Noxious Weeds" which
applies to much of what you are looking for.  I highly recommend getting in
touch with Jerome to get a copy for your Forest Service folks.
www.crmpi.org

Jason


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