[permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes

Linda Ray lindaray at att.net
Mon Nov 15 20:48:31 EST 2010


Yep, that's Green Deane from www.EatTheWeeds.com . He's great and has about 65 videos on Youtube, each focussed on a different Florida wild edible.
 
It has become quite a body of work.
 
Very cool.
 
Linda


--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 7:40 PM


We've had similar results in our garden, letting stuff seed. The lettuce that grows where it "shouldn't be," like in the paths, is some of the best we ever grow - seems the seeds know where to sprout on their own, surprise. 

Here is a list of Florida wild edibles. We try to put as many natives as possible in our yards and our seed balls. :-)

http://www.wildfloridian.com/EdiblePlants.html

This guy is phenomenal, a real treasure for anyone in our neck of the weeds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ilk3VWHbCw&feature=related

Cory
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Kelly Simmons <kelly at bouldersustainability.org> wrote:

> From: Kelly Simmons <kelly at bouldersustainability.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:16 PM
> Hi Keith - There has been much 
> discussion about censorship on the list, but I don't think
> guerilla gardening is one of the off limits topics. 
> :-)
> 
> My favorite method of gardening with annuals is to let a
> few specimens go to seed - so much less work and the
> volunteers are quite hardy.  When they pop up in the
> Spring I move them around to where i want them.  My
> garden beds are sheet mulched so it isn't quite wild
> guerilla gardening, but things do sprout in the paths quite
> often.  Annuals and bi-annuals that have readily seeded
> themselves and yielded edible offspring in our high desert
> region, Colorado, include carrots, kale, chard, arugula,
> parsley, cilantro, tomatoes, pumpkins, lettuce, walking
> onions, potatoes (didn't get them all), garlic, catnip,
> sunflowers, lemon balm, and borage.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Send failed. Trying again. This has happened MANY
> times in the last few months. Is anyone else having this
> problem?
> > K
> > 
> > 
> >    -----Forwarded Message-----
> >    From: Keith D Johnson
> >    Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:46 AM
> >    To: Permaculture Ibiblio List
> >    Subject: Censorship: was Encouraging
> "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
> > 
> >    The first 4 times I sent this to the list
> it never made it. Maybe it was because it had the word
> "guerilla" in the subject line.
> >    I never heard back from anyone about
> their own local "volunteer" crops, though I'm curious to
> compare notes.
> >    So, who is stopping email from reaching
> the list? ISPs?
> >    Should we be concerned?
> >    Has anyone else experienced this kind of
> censorship?
> >    Thanks,
> >    Keith
> > 
> > 
> >        -----Forwarded
> Message-----
> >        From: Keith D Johnson
> >        Sent: Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM
> >        To: Permaculture Ibiblio
> List
> >        Subject: Encouraging
> "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
> > 
> >        Any groups like these
> (below) happening in your regions?
> > 
> >        In Bloomington, IN, there
> are lots of community gardens, a new community orchard,
> urban farmers, farmers markets, university gardeners, local
> seed growers / sellers cooperation, increasing levels of
> garden / farmer training and support.
> > 
> >        We don't have any
> "official" guerilla gardening groups locally (that I know
> of) but as a seed saver I find myself thinking about all the
> things in my garden that could grow on their own, or with
> little support, in wilder urban niches. I have in mind a
> diversity of plants with multiple yields and the creation of
> mixed seed collections of locally adapted, low maintenance,
> often self-sowing, occasionally high nutritional value,
> beneficial insect / bee / butterfly attracting, colorful,
> fragrant, sometimes perennial, economically valuable,
> nitrogen-fixing, wildlife food / habitat, and
> mineral-accumulating types of plants that could also
> partially self-employ those who establish / manage / harvest
> them.
> > 
> >        Maybe a tall order but
> doable, I think..
> > 
> >        A few of the plants that
> would lend themselves to some neglect under less-cared-for
> conditions in  my local (going on zone 7 [was zone 5 25
> years ago]) list include (in no particular order)
> > 
> >        amaranth,
> >        magenta lamb's quarters,
> >        cilantro,
> >        dill,
> >        carrot (especially the
> cosmic red and purples which bloom in rosy pinks and are
> swarmed by beneficials),
> >        walking or Egyptian onion,
> >        leek,
> >        chard,
> >        lettuce,
> >        radish,
> >        ground cherry (Physalis
> spp.), tomatillo,
> >        broom corn (Sorghum),
> >        wheat,
> >        long beans,
> >        lablab beans (hyacinth
> bean),
> >        sunflowers,
> >        balsam impatiens (I grew
> them as understory in the asparagus and scattered through
> the garden and they shaded out weedy competition
> beautifully, butterflies and pollinators love them, simple
> and effortless to weed),
> >        cup plant (Sylphium),
> >        indigo (Indigofera
> tinctoria [polygonaceae], I have white- and pink-flowered
> types of this beautiful blue-dye plant that self-sow in the
> greenhouse and outdoors);
> >        the moschata branch of the
> cucurbits (solid stem, borer resistant) and includes
> tromboncino, butternut and others;
> >        orach (Chenopodium),
> >        motherwort (careful,
> succeeds easily in poor soil),
> >        celosias (very elegant,
> colorful and beneficial hosts),
> >        garlic (plant cloves or
> bulbils),
> >        field / winter / Austrian
> peas,
> >        kale,
> >        collards,
> >        senna (short woody, N-fix,
> bee forage, yellow flowers for 1-2 months),
> >        baptisia (blue, yellow and
> white varieties, perennial, N-fix),
> >        Amorpha fruticosa ("false
> indigo", bee forage, mulch, N),
> >        cherry tomatoes,
> >        buckwheat,
> >        liatris,
> >        hollyhocks,
> >        zinnias,
> >        marigolds,
> >        hibiscus,
> >        sweet potatoes,
> >        stonefruit,
> >        paw paws,
> >        service berry (from seed
> and side shoots),
> >        currant / gooseberry (from
> cuttings),
> >        thornless blackberries and
> >        che fruit (melon berry /
> Chinese mulberry, fig / mulberry family, can be grafted onto
> wild Osage orange [Maclura]).
> >        Apples could be grafted
> onto crab apples and hawthornes, pears on to ornamental
> pears.
> > 
> >        What would your local lists
> look like?
> > --
> > Keith Johnson
> > "Be fruitful and mulch apply."
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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