[permaculture] great aquaculture resource

Cory Brennan cory8570 at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 12 15:50:33 EST 2010


This organization really aligns with what we're trying to do at Pine Ridge and Haiti. Thanks so much for turning me on to them! (to the earlier person who sent me the Youtube video too, thanks) They integrate not only food systems but community, economic, etc.  It looks like a great model. I've contacted them..  The AZ one looks fascinating too. 
Cory

--- On Fri, 11/12/10, Mitra Sticklen <mitra.sticklen at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mitra Sticklen <mitra.sticklen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] great aquaculture resource
To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 12:17 PM

Cory,

Growing Power has a great network of teaching and working farms, including
systems that integrate urban aquaponics systems. See more at
http://www.growingpower.org/aquaponics.htm ... for the SE, the closest
Growing Power regional center is probably at Ft. Valley State in Georgia ...
good luck!

-Mitra


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> PINE; Permaculture Institute of the Northeast U.S. www.thepine.org
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> This has been a busy fall for our *regional Permaculture organization*.
> It?s
> an exciting time and there is much work to do in connecting people to local
> organizations, projects, and learning opportunities.
>
>
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> *501c3*
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> We are proud to announce that P.I.N.E., Permaculture Institute of the
> Northeast, has received its non-profit status and is now officially a 501c3
> non-profit organization. We look forward to supporting the regional network
> with this new tool at our disposal.
>
>
>
> *Board of Directors Expands:*
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> At our October meeting we brought on two new members, Lisa Fernandez of
> Portland, Maine, and Alice Lo of New York City.  This brings our board up
> to
> seven, with members from New York, Vermont, Massachussetts, and Maine.
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> *The current PINE Board is--*
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> Jono Neiger, Leverett, Ma
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> Roxy Finn, Chicopee, Ma
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> Mark Krawczyk, Burlington, Vt
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> Keith Morris, Jeffersonville, Vt
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> Steve Gabriel, Ithaca, NY
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> Lisa Fernandez, Portland, Me
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> Alice Lo, N.Y., N.Y.
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> *Winter strategy/network meetings*
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> As in past years, we?ll be organizing several winter strategy meetings.
> These are chances to meet with people from various parts of the region,
> talk
> about issues that are central to our work, and look for ways to get more
> leverage from our work. We?ll let you know when and where these meetings
> will be held.
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> Keep up the good work
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> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:24:16 -0500
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj at bellsouth.net>
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> Subject: [permaculture] FYI: Fwd: Re: [SANET-MG] Soil phosphate (was
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> chemistry and extraction methods
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:01:11 -0500
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> Hello folks,
>
> Elaine recently commented at some length on how soil testing labs use a
> variety of different analytical methods
> (extractant, shake time...) and consequently widely varying results
> are/would be produced if the same soil was analyzed
> by many different labs.
>
> For example:
>
> Elaine wrote:
> >Therefore, the soluble phosphate values given on a chemistry report
>  reflect the extracting agent used.  I use a lab in Australia to do my
> soil chemistry assessments, because they give >me data that includes 4
> different extraction methods for soluble PO4.  I always have to giggle a
>  bit when the values for soluble PO$ range from 0.5 micrograms, to 150
> micrograms, >and values in between, all depending on which extraction
> method was used.
> >
> > So, which one do you believe?
> >
>
> The quantity of nutrients measured when a soil sample is subjected to a
> routine extraction followed by analysis of
> extract procedure (I am referring to routine soil testing methods intended
> for guiding nutrient management decisions as
> opposed other types of soil analysis)  is ***NOT*** intended to be a direct
> measure of the amount of nutrients that is
> available or will be available in the near future for crop uptake.
>
> Extractable nutrient levels have **NO** meaning without field research
> showing how crop performance (or other phenomena
> such as environmental impact) relates to the extractable nutrient levels
> obtained using a particular soil testing
> method. This type of field research is called soil test calibration and is
> a critical part of the development of soil
> testing methods.
>
> I seriously hope for many reasons (not the least of which is that Australia
> is far away and soil is heavy stuff!) that
> Elaine is not actually sending soil samples from US farms to an Australian
> lab for routine soil testing.
>
> Routine soil analysis should be performed by local/regional labs that use
> analytical and interpretation methods that
> have been shown through calibration experiments to be well suited for
> guiding nutrient/environmental management
> decisions for particular soils.
>
> The use of soil testing to guide management decisions is both an art and a
> science but lots of good science has been
> done...
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> I'm out of time for now... more later.
>
> Joel
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> Joel Gruver
>
> School of Agriculture
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> Western Illinois University
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> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:21:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [permaculture] Aquaponics
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> I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants to
> do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a system,
> in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest, tho,
> if it's a large and really workable system)? ?Aquaponics is not an area I've
> done much with yet.?
> Cory?
>
>
>
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> From: Danijela Babic <dbabic at zamir.net>
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> Dear all,
> Is there anybody who has any experience with baby deer that was
> seriously hurt by lawn mover? Three legs were cut, out of which two
> front legs were cut low -only above hoofs. We are looking for solution
> to create some kind of artificial limbs so that deer can walk a bit. It
> is 5 months old now.
> Any suggestions? Any similar cases around the world?
> thanks
> Danijela
>
>
> On 12.11.2010 18:21, Cory Brennan wrote:
> > I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants
> to do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a system,
> in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest, tho,
> if it's a large and really workable system)?  Aquaponics is not an area I've
> done much with yet.
> > Cory
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> From: Jonathan Storvick <jstorvick at gmail.com>
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> I'm not sure about the southeast, but in Mesa, AZ some intrepid folks have
> created a fully-functional aquaponics/greenhouse setup converted from an
> empty swimming pool.  They had planned to aim for complete food
> self-sufficency in about 3 years, but managed to get there in just one.
> They have a pretty cool website with detailed videos, SketchUp models, and
> so forth:
>
> http://gardenpool.org/
>
> I'm in Northern VA and have also been looking for regional functioning
> aquaponic systems, but haven't really found anything.  If I do, I'll
> definitely post it here.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
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> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants
> to
> > do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> > with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a
> system,
> > in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest,
> tho,
> > if it's a large and really workable system)?  Aquaponics is not an area
> I've
> > done much with yet.
> > Cory
> >
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