[permaculture] Fwd: On an ethics of Mr. Skvorak

steve read permaculturefr at free.fr
Sat Aug 7 04:08:16 EDT 2010


Hallo ,

In some ways this National Guard discussion passes me by , the simple 
application of the principle of 'turning a problem into a solution' 
would seem to indicate that to teach the military PmC could be a very 
positive thing . I was asked in Turkey last year what I would do about 
the 'problem' of their huge army , march them to the top of the country 
equipe them with PmC and appropriate equipement and guidance and let 
them work their way south , designing and installing , cleaning and 
repairing was my somewhat glib but sincere reply . In the same way that 
the 18 million who live in Istanbul , properly equiped  with knowledge 
and guidance could transform the city in a few days .

I'm not sure that there are 'enlightened people' in the militaries but 
as soldiers are people too there are undoubtedly ways to awaken them/us.

You don't need a firesuit Pierre, which must be uncomfortable. I could 
see my self as a fundamentalist in that I seek to understand the 
fundamentals of everything , to use Occams razor to cut away chaff , in 
myself and certainly in PmC. The same with purity, to remove all taht is 
unalloyed to see to the heart of something. That things evolve and 
change is evident, yet we are designers and for me guides, it would seem 
to me that evolution in  PmC could be guided by us in an awakened 
manner. I personally see no good reason, especially as I don't wear T 
shirts, to transform from "limit/surplus etc" to "fairshares", quite the 
opposite. I don't know about elsewhere but in the UK where I lived some 
time, there was/is many PmC designers who have long resisted this 
change. Here in France we keep the original although it has been 
expanded to include the term 'abundance', in Turkey the same.

There are many "Ways" which have evolved since their creation, 
unfortunately often to the detriment of the original, much of the Aikido 
I see taught seems uniformed by the love which was at the heart of what 
Ueshiba created, post-war, and also his 3 rules are often not even known.

For me PmC is the tool I use to encourage socio/environmental evolution, 
guided. If the tool I use/have used for the last 20 years is being 
changed then I need to know and understand why.

Steve Read
www.permaculturefrance.org




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