[permaculture] Copyright Infringement on PERMACULTURE: A Designers' Manual

Daniel Mazen Kablaoui dankablaoui at gmail.com
Fri Nov 13 16:28:11 EST 2009


0. Nobody is stealing Mollison's work.  Nobody can now.  He wrote the Design
Manual, and now there are people all over the world who want to thank him.

1. Who was it who said that a person is not entitled to the fruit of his
labor, but only to labor itself?  I find it amazing that Evan is being
called out for having entitlement issues when it seems he is leveling an
argument against the notion of entitlement itself.

2. In any case, the Manual *is *available online for free, downloading the
pdf should take only a few minutes if you're working with a quick
connection.  Worrying about the legality of that act is a waste of time!

3. I find myself enriched by illegally obtained information to a degree
which I can't fully conceptualize.  I am absolutely mystified by any artist
whether they be writer, musician, scientist, or anyone who wastes bits of
their time being upset with me or others like me about that.  I am not your
enemy.

Danny

2009/11/13 Doug Clapp <doug.s.clapp at gmail.com>

> I'm a published writer (five books).  Paul is 100% correct:
>
> Stealing a book or stealing the contents of a book is stealing, pure and
> simple.
>
> Get it from a library, save your money, ask for donations to buy a copy,
> but
>
> DON'T STEAL BOOKS.
>
> A worker is worthy of his hire.  Stealing a man's work is stealing part of
> his life.
>
> And, of course, the more money Mollison makes from his book, the more
> others
> will also want to write permaculture books!
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:11 PM, paul wheaton <paul at richsoil.com> wrote:
>
> > If mollison gives his book to the world, he is a cool and generous guy.
> >
> > If __(insert name here)__ gives her/his book/video/article to the
> > world, she/he is a cool and generous guy/gal.
> >
> > If somebody takes mollison's book and gives it to the world, for
> > whatever reason, that's just plain theft.
> >
> > If you're gonna steal, how about if you steal from cargill or monsanto
> > or some other bad guys.  Mollison seems really cool - don't steal from
> > him.
> >
> > Is this an example of "no good deed goes unpunished"?  I'd prefer to
> > see mollison's good deeds get a fat reward.
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