[permaculture] Toby's post on Autumn olive
Dick Pierce
dickpiercedesigns at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 22:57:44 EDT 2009
When in [any] doubt, leave Nature alone. Thanks.
Nature is the old pro; we are the adolescents. How many of our adolescent
decisions worked out real well? Weren't we [secretly] thankful that there
was some "old growth" around to save/guide us? (remeniscent of Barry
Commoner's "The Closing Circle - on old growth and new growth forests). I
trust Nature to introduce new species. I know we can be adolescent.
IPM, the acronym for Integrated Pest Management, asks for using all other
natural/native/local remedies before using a chemical. I'm musing of another
IPM, Integrated Plant Management, where all other natural/native/local
species are encouraged/used first , before a non-native/exotic is
used/introduced.
For what it's worth.
Dick Pierce
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM, <lbsaltzman at aol.com> wrote:
> It reminds me of language pursuits bemoaning the changes to languages and
> trying to preserve a "pure language", which is to say?turning a living
> language into a non-living language frozen at moment in time.? I notice that
> new plants appear in our forest garden all the time. many are useful, but?a
> few are problematic. The hard part is being intelligent and experienced
> enough to know when to leave nature alone and when to intervene and push it
> in a direction we want it to go.
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia at yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:08 pm
> Subject: [permaculture] Toby's post on Autumn olive
>
>
>
> I don't know if Toby is trying to reignite the fiery debate on invasive
> plants,
> but I would argue for a more balanced approach to the topic.? Saying that
> Douglas-fir is not native to Cascadia is to redefine the term.? It was
> there
> long before people were, as far as I've ever heard.
> ?
> Also, making broad generalizations about plant succession is risky, whether
> invasive plants are involved (usually are) or not.? To say that invasive
> exotic
> plants do not displace natives without humun disturbance is to deny the
> chaotic
> and wondrous process of ecological succession.? Natives displace natives,
> so why
> can't exotic plants displace natives?? I see it frequently, without humun
> disturbance.? Sometimes, native plants displace exotic plants, too.? It's
> all a
> dance.
> ?
> Rain
> ?
>
>
>
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