[permaculture] thornless honey locust propagation

Keith D Johnson keithdj at mindspring.com
Wed Apr 8 22:41:48 EDT 2009


I purchased seed for thornless honey locust from Lawyer Nursery and about half of them eventually proved to yield thorny plants.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lisa Rollens <rollens at fidnet.com>
>Sent: Apr 7, 2009 12:33 PM
>To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [permaculture] thornless honey locust propagation
>
>Hey John!
>
>I think that thornless honey locust do not breed true.  I also am interested 
>in them and gather and feed the pods, primarily to my Jersey cow.  My 
>thoughts, thinking about planting some for fodder use, on a small acreage, 
>is to just go up on the hill where they seed into the pasture and dig up the 
>thornless ones and transplant.  I know they will transplant because I dug 
>some up and heeled them in my garden for later transplanting.  they grew 
>well in the garden!  They seed into the pastures all over here, and probably 
>there as well.  Easy to tell thorny from thornless.
>
>Lisa, in the MO Ozarks
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John Fritz" <johnfritz77 at yahoo.com>
>To: <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:16 AM
>Subject: [permaculture] thornless honey locust propagation
>
>I have some thornless honey locut seed in stratification after having 
>scarified them, only to come across some information that these trees can 
>revert back to a thorn producing variety in their seed. I am interested in 
>these trees for sentimental reasons...a specimen was the biggest, most shade 
>producing tree in my childhood Chicago backyard. But also, I am interested 
>in the tree as a fodder and fuel crop. They produce seed pods and branches 
>that goats will eat, and also can be used as a coppice species.
>
>My question: Does anyone have any experience with this species, in 
>particular its' potential to revert back to a thorn bearing variety in its' 
>seed?
>
>John Fritz, NW Arkansas.


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