[permaculture] mis-sent
Claudia Joseph
permie at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 10 09:44:41 EDT 2007
Yes, Sean. I am sorry for my negative tone. There are personal
issues shaping this that I am passing through. Since I have your
attention, however, can you tell me if attendance was taken at the
course? Did people skip days and still get a certificate? I am a
bit stumped on this point. I can offer make-ups, (which I presume
the Inwood course did not) but this isn't really the same as being
there.
I see this as a flaw in the modular format.
Again, I apologize for mistakenly sending to the list. In a way
though, it is good and right that our feelings are out in the open.
I think I mentioned the tears to Larry because permaculture does
operate on a deep emotional level at times.
It would be nice to offer a free class sometime. Perhaps we can talk
about how to do that.
Thanks for your constructive comments.
Peace to you,
Claudia
On Oct 9, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Sean Maley wrote:
> Just to be clear on the tears shed at the Inwood Nature Center in
> Manhattan, ... they were tears of joy. It took over a year and a
> half of planning, false starts, and much failure. Class locations
> pulled out on us at the last moment. Teachers in the region had
> their own agendas and their own courses competing for students.
> Luckily we were able to saturate both PDC classes here in
> Manhattan, despite the false start of not enough students for
> competing classes last October.
>
> We offered a course for $300 (sliding scale) in Manhattan. The
> class space was free; 200 acres of old growth and last salt marsh
> in Manhattan. The location was not entirely friendly, though, as
> key individuals no longer worked at the Nature Center by the time
> the class began. The teachers, whom we were able to pay, stayed at
> an organizer's apartment for these six weekends.
>
> The presentations shamed the presentations of the two week PDC I
> attended. As far as we understand, this was the first PDC in
> Manhattan.
>
> Even further, we have individuals out in NYC looking for places to
> learn yet more. I have some meeting in Inwood that attended this
> class. Others from the class have been meeting in Brooklyn.
>
> We should be applauding such heroic efforts. Thank you to Ethan
> and to others for your involvement. We are sure to have other
> classes for those who would like to be involved.
>
> It is our hopes to find a way of including students who earn
> exploitative wages in proximity to Wall Street costs of living
> (Bronx per capita income in 1999 was at the bottom of all counties
> in NY state; gentrification has been altering the situation of late).
>
> in Oct 8, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Claudia Joseph wrote:
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