[permaculture] mis-sent

Claudia Joseph permie at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 10 09:44:41 EDT 2007


Yes, Sean.  I am sorry for my negative tone.  There are personal  
issues shaping this that I  am passing through.  Since I have your  
attention, however, can you tell me if attendance was taken at the  
course?  Did people skip days and still get a certificate?  I am a  
bit stumped on this point.  I can offer make-ups, (which I presume  
the Inwood course did not) but this isn't really the same as being  
there.

I see this as a flaw in the modular format.

Again, I apologize for mistakenly sending to the list.  In a way  
though, it is good and right that our feelings are out in the open.   
I think I mentioned the tears to Larry because permaculture does  
operate on a deep emotional level at times.

It would be nice to offer a free class sometime.  Perhaps we can talk  
about how to do that.
Thanks for your constructive comments.

Peace to you,
Claudia


On Oct 9, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Sean Maley wrote:

> Just to be clear on the tears shed at the Inwood Nature Center in  
> Manhattan, ... they were tears of joy.  It took over a year and a  
> half of planning, false starts, and much failure.  Class locations  
> pulled out on us at the last moment.  Teachers in the region had  
> their own agendas and their own courses competing for students.   
> Luckily we were able to saturate both PDC classes here in  
> Manhattan, despite the false start of not enough students for  
> competing classes last October.
>
> We offered a course for $300 (sliding scale) in Manhattan.  The  
> class space was free; 200 acres of old growth and last salt marsh  
> in Manhattan.  The location was not entirely friendly, though, as  
> key individuals no longer worked at the Nature Center by the time  
> the class began.  The teachers, whom we were able to pay, stayed at  
> an organizer's apartment for these six weekends.
>
> The presentations shamed the presentations of the two week PDC I  
> attended.  As far as we understand, this was the first PDC in  
> Manhattan.
>
> Even further, we have individuals out in NYC looking for places to  
> learn yet more.  I have some meeting in Inwood that attended this  
> class.  Others from the class have been meeting in Brooklyn.
>
> We should be applauding such heroic efforts.  Thank you to Ethan  
> and to others for your involvement.  We are sure to have other  
> classes for those who would like to be involved.
>
> It is our hopes to find a way of including students who earn  
> exploitative wages in proximity to Wall Street costs of living  
> (Bronx per capita income in 1999 was at the bottom of all counties  
> in NY state; gentrification has been altering the situation of late).
>
> in Oct 8, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Claudia Joseph wrote:
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