[permaculture] Urine against voles?

Nancy Bracewell Cather39 at bham.rr.com
Sun Nov 11 16:29:24 EST 2007


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Urine against voles?

I rekon the voles are gonna win (10-1), they can like run n everything ;-)

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Dieter Brand wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.
>    
>   I heard about terriers, but I'm not sure I would want them to 
>   dig up my vegetable beds. Where can I buy mint oil?
>   Drug store? Pharmacy?
>   Repellent by odour is certainly something to follow. 
>   Fish and garlic are also options. I tried thuja branches,
>   but that doesn't seem to deter them from a known feeding
>   ground.
>    
>   Incidentally, since I used the diluted urine 2 days ago,
>   they have stayed away from the salads, but went back
>   to the artichokes instead.
>    
>   Dieter Brand
>   Portugal
>   
> Douglas Woodard <dwoodard at becon.org> wrote:
>   Dieter, I have no experience dealing with this problem.
>
> Have you any experience with terriers? It strikes me that you need 
> something with a good nose.
>
> I lived for while on Amherst Island in Lake Ontario which was overrun 
> with voles and had been for many years. It struck me that the island 
> seemed to lack large snakes, which are well known as enemies of voles, 
> possibly because it had been heavily cultivated and populated in the past.
>
> I have known an apple grower to use a sudden abundance of medium sized 
> snakes (garter snakes) as an indication that he needed to do something 
> about his vole population. Snakes need winter shelter from frost among 
> other things.
>
> Chickens are great mulch sifters and enemies of voles. Baby mice are 
> tiny and helpless, ideal chicken snacks.
>
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> Dieter Brand wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anybody know whether urine is effective for
>> repelling voles? Voles are supposed to have a very
>> sensitive sense of smell and seem to avoid anything
>> with a human odour on it.
>>
>> At what ratio is urine diluted when used in the garden?
>> Is it used immediately or do I a let it sit for a while?
>> For how long is the repellent effect likely to last, if 
>> there is one?
>>
>> This is rather urgent, the buggers finish off one 
>> salad after the other before I get a chance to harvest
>> any. In the summer they destroyed almost all of my
>> sweet potatoes. I bought 10 sweet potatoes to grow 
>> more than 100 seedlings. When I harvested last week, 
>> all I got was 5 sweet potatoes. At this rate I might 
>> as well give up or use poison.
>>
>> Dieter Brand
>> Portugal
>>
>> PS: I use no-till with mulch, which doesn't help in
>> detecting the voles.
>>     
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