[permaculture] Franken vs. lush bimbo etc.
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Mon Feb 19 16:54:12 EST 2007
Is there any particular reason why we cannot have a discussion that
honors the Permaculture principle of valuing diversity here?
I see nothing in the Permaculture ethic of "Care for the Earth; care
for the people" that justifies or condones namecalling and personal
At 1:20 PM -0800 2/19/07, John Fritz wrote:
> >From your comments below it seems you are aware of the lies that
>corporate media (such as Fox, Clear Channel etc) are foisting upon a
>generally unsuspecting public. I think we can agree that radio
>shows selling air time to advertisers are going to have the
>repulsive aspects you mentioned (such as canned and phony laughter
>etc) regardless of the content or editorial bent of the show. I am
>not taking issue with you on this part of Air America. I am taking
>issue with what appears to be your unwillingness to acknowledge that
>there is a qualitative difference between the lush bimbos, Hannitys
>and O'Riellys, on the one hand, and the Al Frankens, Randi Rhodes,
>and Amy Goodmans on the other hand. The former is invested in
>perpetrating lies at the expense of their listeners, while the
>latter is commited to exposing those lies. Not to mention that the
>former are almost entirely chicken hawks unwilling to fight the wars
>they want everyone else to fight. As I said in the first
> post, at least Franken has enough of a pair to actually go to Iraq,
>regulary, and support the morale of the troops there. I think
>Franken is probably one of the weakest for getting the truth out,
>though his satire does have its' value. If you want to know what
>the truth is listen to Amy Goodman and her Democracy Now show, or
>the Randi Rhodes segment of Air America.
> John Fritz, NW Arkansas.
>John Fritz wrote:
>> You are the one looking like a "doofus". Franken is running for
>> senator of Minnesota, not for president of the U.S.
>> At least Franken has the integrity to visit the troops in Iraq to
>entertain and help with their morale.
>> HIs words are supported by his actions. Why did you attack his
>intelligence without any corroborating evidence?
>I have coroborating evidence. You are the doofus for being taken in by
>that leftist weenie gasbag. I have heard his radio show. I always hit
>the switch when the laughing machine comes on grovelling and guffawing,
>carping and whining. That imbecillic woman sidekick who gushes forth
>with the same phony laughter spurt every five
>minutes, at the least provocation, usually nothing humorous. Franken
>wouldn't know what to do with himself without her around; the show would
>fall apart. Its the left analogue of the Rush Limbaugh show.
>If he is typical of the answer the Democrats, The Left, The
>Progressives, The Greens, etc., all the good guys, have in
>answer to all the rightwing-sponsored government-corporate collusion and
>corruption, the mess we witness daily, the
>erosion of the fabric of our society and our culture, then there's no
>hope for us.
>I have two interesting friends in my neighborhood. One is an 82 year old
>homesteading 3rd generation farmer and loyal
>Democrat who said that Hillary Clinton has more sense in her big toe
>than George Bush has in his enttire body. The other
>is a Vietnam War Marine Veteran, who saw action, who is also a loyal
>Democrat, who maintains that the Democrats are the
>friend of the soldier and stand up for the common man always and without
>exception. Maybe I am too harsh about Franken
>and he may deserve another listen, which I will do. But these days
>people in the public eye need to talk the talk and
>walk the walk. You're either part of the solution, or you're part of the
>Lawrence F. London, Jr.
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