[permaculture] politics and permies

Katey newtribe at hughes.net
Wed Dec 5 17:34:51 EST 2007


Gee, Scott, since your name isn't even mentioned in the email exchange 
below i'm not sure how your ego managed to make it all about you.  Go 
figure. 

~katey

Katey Culver
ecoville architechs
www.earthandstraw.com



Scott Pittman wrote:
> Due to linguistic advantage and some's lack of ability to read without
> reading into, my flummoxedness has reached critical mass and I am retiring
> from the "politics and permies" thread.
>
> I leave with this caveat:  None of my communications have been personal
> aside from the fact that I am responding to a person or persons who
> addressed my communications personally.  I originally entered this
> "discussion" because the subject interests me and I continued the
> conversation in the vain hope that I could bring clarity to what I consider
> a gross misreading of my written word.  I must plead guilty to
> "passionately" pursuing my beliefs regarding this thread. As far as there
> being "cliques" and other pc conspiratorial groups behind my communications
> I can only say, and I mean this in a loving way, Hogwash!
>
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
> www.permaculture.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Katey [mailto:newtribe at hughes.net] 
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:42 PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] politics and permies
>
> Stella wrote:
>   
>> given what ONE Ghandi was able to do, or one Martin Luther King, in 
>> terms of social change .. I think we should seriously ask ourselves 
>> why, with so many permaculturists loose ... we haven´t re-designed 
>> society yet.
>>
>> it´s only  a revolutionary system of design if some revolution actually 
>> happens.
>>     
> What did one Gandhi or one MLK Jr do?  Got themselves killed for one.  
> Revolutions don't change things, not really.  They have failed humans 
> miserably through the ages as the elite rule of civilization has marched 
> steadfastly onward, side stepping here and there, but always 
> relentlessly onward.
>
> After the British pulled out Gandhi saw the destruction of the nation he 
> was trying to free.  And it did not happen through non-violence and 
> peaceable means.
>
> MLK Jr, Medgar Evers, and so many others lost  their lives for the 
> "gains" we made in civil rights (ask the Jena 6 how far we've come).  
> Jesse and Al, standing right at King's side, learned quickly not to rock 
> the boat too hard.  Definitely not hard enough to evoke change, lest you 
> be killed.
>
> We will change the paradigm, not through revolution, but through 
> evolution.  It will take switching the mindset of enough humans to 
> create the kind of change we need to see.  And i agree that permaculture 
> is a great tool for that.  It might be way too slow for most of the 
> species on the planet currently (including our own), but that shouldn't 
> stop us from doing what we know in our hearts, guts and minds is a great 
> healing.  And do it as a political statement!
>
> ~katey
>
> Katey Culver
> ecoville architechs
> www.earthandstraw.com
>
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