[permaculture] re sustainable ag in India email contact

Naomi Coleman scpi at tpg.com.au
Tue Jul 18 09:40:53 EDT 2006


The email address for those interested in contacting Sarah Southall in India 
is

worldfraternity at rediffmail.com


Thanks for pointing out the address wasnt forwarded as part of the email 
Darren, sorry about that.

Rick's due back from Aceh in 2 weeks, not sure what Cam's plans are, I think 
he may work a bit longer on the Bali project that IDEP are establishing.

Havent had a lot of contact, but the project and training seem to have gone 
well, with 12 aid agencies approaching them to find out what they are doing 
that is so successful in rebuilding after the tsunami, and Rick is running a 
workshop for a number of aid agencies on the permaculture approach to 
sustainable aid, so it  seems to be taking off.

Naomi

Check out our website at
www.southerncrosspermaculture.com.au

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> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:21:58 -0500
> From: "Kathy Evans" <evansdk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] uncolleging
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> Paul, Can you tell us more about what your son is doing uncolleging? I 
> have
> one who has so far traveled around the world twice on a shoestring,
> volunteering. I have a hard time letting go of thinking they need a 
> degree.
> Kathy
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> From: Paul Kosuth <prkosuth at ll.net>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] self design--please repost link
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> here ya go....
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> http://database.selfdesign.org/sites/wondertree.php
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> On Jul 16, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Kathy Evans wrote:
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>> Could whoever posted the link that Paul K was referring to please
>> repost
>> it? thanks, Kathy
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> From: Steve Hoog <livingpotentials at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] uncolleging
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> kathy,paul,knat-------who is in control of reality? can you get to the 
> point of "knowing" that you can deal with whatever the universe 
> offers?---uncolleging? how about uncertificating?in all my readings about 
> the lenni lenape and  other tribes they kept saying that nature teaches 
> you. tune into natures rhythms and processes and you will learn how to be 
> here.  is that not possible today?  did nature stop teaching? do you need 
> a degree to flow with the universe? will the universe not support you if 
> you connect with it? or is that all over with?    aha!!!
>  also are shoestrings edible?recipes? shelter? means of 
> transportation?however he did that he must be empowered---steve from pa.
>
> Kathy Evans <evansdk at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  Paul, Can you tell us more about what your son is doing uncolleging? I 
> have
> one who has so far traveled around the world twice on a shoestring,
> volunteering. I have a hard time letting go of thinking they need a 
> degree.
> Kathy
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:44:21 +1000
> From: "Naomi Coleman" <scpi at tpg.com.au>
> Subject: [permaculture] Fw: sustainable ag in india
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> Can anyone help Sarah out with info or contacts? Please reply directly to 
> her email
>
> Naomi (Southern Cross Permaculture Institute, Victoria, Australia)
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: world fraternity
> To: scpi at tpg.com.au
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:56 PM
> Subject: sustainable ag in india
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>
>  Hi Naomi,
> My name is Sarah and I am from the Mornington Peninsula, but living in 
> India in Gujerat in a rural town. We have problems with sal affected land 
> here and I am researching different ways we might be able to slow the 
> degredation and increase the regeneration.
>
> I read a bio about you on the permaculture international website and 
> wondered if you have any digital info on working with salt affected land 
> you could send me?? Here we are at the start of wet season and there are 
> no trees to soak up the water, it just lies about. It is very flat land. 
> we drove the other night for a couple of hours and the scenery was all the 
> same. a tree here and there, but just flat paddocks. I am interested in 
> sustainable ag. but I havent done a permaculture course, I do know that 
> people all over the world need access to the wisdom of pc. I was happy to 
> read that you and your husband have been teaching all over the world - 
> congratulations! what a wonderful thing to be involved in.
>
> I am currently studying with a good friend under a guru in a town 100km 
> from Ahmedabad in Gujerat. We have purchased some land for a new school 
> and ashram, animal shelter and orphanage. we are keen to have some lush 
> gardens, fruit trees and vegies. We want to teach the kids about 
> sustainable use of the land as well as show locals what can be done here. 
> When Bill and geoff Lawton put on that Melbourne Uni course recently my 
> friend helped organise it and I met some wonderful people from around the 
> world. Do you have contacts in India you could put me in touch with. I 
> need to have a chat to someone about what projects have been undertaken 
> and what succeses and failures have come about.
>
> Our organisation is committed to achieving a worldwide fraternity of 
> people working in harmony with man and nature. We are starting to call now 
> for people from all over the world to come and work with us on many 
> community projects and at the same time work on themselves and their own 
> spiritual development. We will also be starting some projects in Australia 
> in the coming years which is exciting! We are not religious but definitely 
> spiritual. If by chance you know anyone who is thinking of coming to india 
> let them know about us as we have enough resources to cover for many 
> people's needs - feel free to pas on this email address. We will be 
> starting the building of the school and ashram after the rains in oct/nov. 
> but people are welcome anytime.
>
> I trust this email finds you happy and well.
> I look forward to hearing back from you and finding out if you have any 
> information or contacts that might be of help to this project.
> Cheers,
> Sarah Southall
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:01:24 +0700
> From: <darren at permaculture.biz>
> Subject: [permaculture] Fw: sustainable ag in india
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> G'day Naomi,
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> I trust that this greets you and all well.
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> Interesting post: sorry I couldn't find an email address in this post.
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> Hope all is well: Rick and Cam must be due back soon from Aceh?
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> From: KNat <knat at sprintmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] uncolleging
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> Kathy Evans wrote:
>> Paul, Can you tell us more about what your son is doing uncolleging? I 
>> have
>> one who has so far traveled around the world twice on a shoestring,
>> volunteering. I have a hard time letting go of thinking they need a 
>> degree.
>> Kathy
> Hi Kathy,
> I'm the one who mentioned uncolleging. I figured it best to ask. My
> son's reply below.
>
> Kathyann
>
>
> What is uncolleging? It's life.
>
> Uncolleging is putting yourself in situations to find your talents, and
> what you love to do, or continuing that process if you've unschooled.
> It's surrounding yourself with skill-building opportunities, and honing
> skills. It's periodically checking in with yourself (or a mentor) to see
> that what you are doing is somehow related to your lifelong dreams and
> goals. It's remembering to document what you do so that when you're
> "done" with "college" you have a work history or resume that can put any
> college transcript or degree to shame. You don't have to wait till
> you've graduated to do what you want, you just have to find out what you
> actually want, and how to do it.
>
> That's the quick and dirty of my current impression of it.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:39:42 -0500
> From: "Kathy Evans" <evansdk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] uncolleging and pc in India
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Steve, you are so right. My one who went around the world is a girl, now 
> 22. Shoestring was not edible, she paid for ticket and the rest was 
> WWOOFing, Willing Workers on Organic Farms, room and board for labor. Now 
> she and boyfriend want to buy land (college money from grandparents) and 
> learn permaculture and start a WWOOF farm themselves. All her great 
> grandparents, all four grandparents, both parents, all have lotsa college 
> so everyone raises eyebrows at this smart kid not going to school. Smarter 
> than the rest of us, maybe. The point you make is almost painful...how 
> much have we/I forgotten, how can I keep learning from nature, what good 
> are all the degrees if you have to get in a car and burn oil every time 
> you're hungry or thirsty. Kathyann, thank you SO much for asking your son 
> and sending his reply. Geez, I think if Micaela just wrote down what she's 
> been up to, yes, it would be a heckuva transcript. In the Himalayas on 
> second trip one day they realized no shelter woul
> d be available that night so the boyfriend built something out of rocks 
> and sticks and debris that kept 6 adults warm and dry through a rainy 
> snowy night. He didn't learn that in college, and he went; also knows 
> primitive skills. Regardng the post about permaculture in India, I would 
> like contact info for that gal, for future reference, for next daughter 
> who wants to go around the world "blowing" her college money. Kathy
>
>
>
>
> kathy,paul,knat-------who is in control of reality? can you get to the 
> point of "knowing" that you can deal with whatever the universe 
> offers?---uncolleging? how about uncertificating?in all my readings about 
> the lenni lenape and  other tribes they kept saying that nature teaches 
> you. tune into natures rhythms and processes and you will learn how to be 
> here.  is that not possible today?  did nature stop teaching? do you need 
> a degree to flow with the universe? will the universe not support you if 
> you connect with it? or is that all over with?    aha!!!
> also are shoestrings edible?recipes? shelter? means of 
> transportation?however he did that he must be empowered---steve from pa.
>
> Kathy Evans <evansdk at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Paul, Can you tell us more about what your son is doing uncolleging? I 
> have
> one who has so far traveled around the world twice on a shoestring,
> volunteering. I have a hard time letting go of thinking they need a 
> degree.
> Kathy
>
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