[permaculture] Re: paulownias

Mike Barnett dreadlox at cwjamaica.com
Fri Dec 5 02:10:42 EST 2003


Could you tell me a bit more about your comment charming weeds??
Would they grow here in JAMAICA?? And why weeds?

Mike
JAMAICA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Topek" <ktopek at houston.rr.com>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Re: paulownias


> As far as I know and have researched, Paulownias are not nitrogen fixers.
> They do not have any leguminous properties and I can find no reference to
a
> symbiotic bacterial relationship (nitrogen fixation). It appears they are
> being touted worldwide as a rapidly growing hardwood. I found them to be
> charming weeds.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claude William Genest" <genest at pivot.net>
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:04 AM
> Subject: [permaculture] Re: paulownias
>
>
> > are these trees Nitrogen fixers ?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 10:44 PM, Kevin Topek wrote:
> >
> > > Paulownias grew like the weeds they are in the Piedmont (central) and
> > > Coastal Plains of North Carolina. I was under the impression that the
> > > wood
> > > was a favorite for coffins in Japan. It is my observation that they
> > > like
> > > cool and very moist temperate conditions. During the spring, the
ground
> > > beneath the trees is littered with purple bells that are the fallen
> > > blossoms. I also noticed when they sustained wind damage, the cracked
> > > wood
> > > did not rot rapidly at all, as would be expected from a fast growing,
> > > thin
> > > celled wood. Paulownias are being looked at for restoration of NC
> > > coastal
> > > land played out by cotton and hog farming.
> > >
> > > Kevin Topek
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Murphy" <michael at ctsl.com>
> > > To: "elijah smith" <elijahs at earthlink.net>; "permaculture"
> > > <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:02 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [permaculture] Extremely fast growing paulownias
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hard to tell why he thinks there's no demand, so no one will grow
> > >> them,
> > > when there's a big demand for the wood, which can be harvested as
> > > early as
> > > six years, and they are widely grown.  We interplanted 100 with
> > > chestnuts,
> > > about 2 miles back from the ocean 30 miles south of San Francisco.
> > > Even on
> > > careful drip irrigaiton (they don't like getting their feet wet),
> > > about half
> > > died and none grew the advertised six feet or more a year.  They don't
> > > like
> > > wind, which we have in spades.  I wouldn't plant them again, except in
> > > a
> > > very warm, well-drained, wind-protected area.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of elijah
smith
> > >> Sent: Tue 12/2/2003 4:54 PM
> > >> To: permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org
> > >> Cc:
> > >> Subject: [permaculture] Extremely fast growing paulownias
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Interesting - they were even growing them to "prevent ground and
> > >> surface
> > > water contamination."
> > >>
> > >> http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7394032.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
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