hanzibra at svn.com.br
Sun Apr 16 05:31:04 EDT 2000
I also measure my work as before and after Viktor Schauberger. I think we
will take some time to incorporate any but the most obvious ramifications
of this work ( such as the shape of our water tanks..) as it really
demands paradigm shifts and even moving into multi-dimensional thinking to
really understand what he is getting at... At the same time with tremendous
practical implications ( including implosion motors and abundante free
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Roseman <lanceroseman at yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: permaculture digest: May 08, 2000
> I've just been reading a book on the works of
> Victor Schauberger and it has thrown me for a loop.
> Dark Suns and the smashing of the Second 'Law'(?) of
> Thermodynamics. Everything he wrote seems to be
> ringing true. With the Eastern Seaboard going through
> a 'heatwave' in May I'm beginning to suspect that
> global warming is no longer 'right around the corner'
> but that it has arrived. I'm beginning to feel a bit
> despondent. There is an undercurrent of talk here in
> the circles I move in in B.C. which is muttering
> I don't know how many of you listen to coast to
> coast am (formerly with Art Bell) but I've been
> thinking that if enough Permies email the new host
> Mike Siegel suggesting he have someone on to speak
> about Permaculture that he may give it a go. That show
> makes lame books best sellers virtually overnight.
> It's time for some drastic measures 'me-thinks'. Any
> ideas out there?
> If anyone knows about any group which is working
> with Schauberger dynamics could you please inform me I
> need someone to talk to about his work.
> In Lake'ch
> --- permaculture digest
> <permaculture at franklin.oit.unc.edu> wrote:
> > permaculture Digest for Monday, May 08, 2000.
> > 1. RE: Wendell Berry
> > Subject: RE: Wendell Berry
> > From: John Schinnerer
> > <John-Schinnerer at data-dimensions.com>
> > Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:19:36 -0700
> > X-Message-Number: 1
> > Aloha,
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emily A. Noble [mailto:guinep at theriver.com]
> > >Berry isn't a permaculturist exactly...
> > Yeah, I'd say he's a meta-permaculturalist...if
> > permaculture becomes a
> > movement it will suffer the same fate(s) he points
> > out (and of course there
> > is no "it," but rather what we do and how we do it).
> > He's hittin' the nail square on the head here...
> > John Schinnerer
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