permaculture digest: March 31, 2000

Lance Roseman lanceroseman at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 4 16:03:32 EDT 2000




--- permaculture digest
<permaculture at franklin.oit.unc.edu> wrote:
> permaculture Digest for Friday, March 31, 2000.
> 
> 1. Re: Comfrey
> 2. Re: Comfrey
> 3. Re: Comfrey
> 4. Re: Comfrey
> 5. Re: Comfrey
> 6. Fw: Compost, Mycorrhize Alternative to Methyl
> Bromide in Strawbe
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Re: Comfrey
> From: David Holmgren <holmgren at netconnect.com.au>
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> 
> Myk, all of our beasties-goats, chooks, ducks,
> rabbits guinea-pigs and
> geese love comfrey. We have had to take the geese
> out of one section of our
> orchard to try to get it to regrow. We also it in
> cooking occasionally and
> (used to before the geese devoured it) cut early
> summer for liquid manure
> so that it didn't compete so much for water. We have
> fruit trees ringed by
> it. Cheers Su
> 
> David Holmgren & Su Dennett
> Holmgren Design Services
> Hepburn Permaculture Gardens
> 16 Fourteenth St,
> Hepburn. 3461.
> Australia.
> Ph/fax 0353483636
> Email holmgren at netconnect.com.au
> Website http://www.spacountry.net.au/holmgren
> 
> 
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Re: Comfrey
> From: Mikal Jakubal <mjakubal at asis.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:39:53 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> Hi,
> In one of the re: comfrey posts someone said that
> comfrey was illegal to
> actually *grow* somewhere. Is this true?! I can
> imagine them ("them" again)
> saying that doctors can't dispense it...but making
> it illegal to grow in
> your backyard? If that's true, I better get some
> established while I still
> can! 
> 
> That makes me wonder...If it is illegal, what do
> they do about it? Pot is
> illegal here in Humboldt County, but everybody grows
> it anyway. Every
> summer, the coppers in their choppers swoop in and
> pull up many tens of
> thousands of plants (and rough up a few civil
> rights). Easy enough with
> cannabis, but I'd like to see them try and get rid
> of a big comfrey patch.
> Think of  the advantage of growing illicit comfrey
> over pot: if you hear
> the helicopters coming or get a report over the CB
> radio that the cops are
> on their way, just hack it to the ground and hide
> the stubs with straw. In
> a couple weeks it'll have all grown back.
> 
> Just imagine: black market comfrey, $4,000/lb!
> 
> Mikal
> 
>   
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Re: Comfrey
> From: "Myk Rushton" <permaculture at wave.co.nz>
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 03:07:00 +1200
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> Hi Mikal
> 
> Yes it is apparently illegal in Canada, Germany and
> Australia, 'but' whether
> this is the sale of or the growing of I'm not sure.
> 
> Myk
> --
> I called some mechanical sounding entity at our
agricultural center and discovered that comfrey is NOT
illegal to grow in Canada.  We can grow it, smoke it,
snort it if we like and even...peddle it.

In Lake'ch
Lance
> 
> 
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Re: Comfrey
> From: Mikal Jakubal <mjakubal at asis.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:18:31 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 4
> 
> Myk wrote:
> 
> >Yes it is apparently illegal in Canada, Germany and
> Australia, 'but' whether
> >this is the sale of or the growing of I'm not sure.
> 
> Yikes! That's scary. Could someone in those
> countries find out the details
> of the laws? If sale is illegal, does that apply to
> nurseries too, or just
> picked leaves/root? 
> 
> I can see it now: smugglers going north through the
> wilderness with a
> backpack of comfrey, and coming south with a pack
> full of cheap B.C. pot. 
> 
> Ain't it great to live in a free society?
> 
> Mikal
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Re: Comfrey
> From: Scott Pittman <pci at permaculture-inst.org>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:53:15 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 5
> 
> 
> >BTW does anybody know if stock will eat or are
> affected by eating comfrey?
> >
> 
> I am currently raising a flock of chicks on fresh
> comfrey, supplementing it 
> with alfalfa straw, fresh greens from the
> greenhouse, wild bird mix and 
> commercial starter. The starter contains
> antibiotics, and I am really 
> resistant to use it in the future, so in a way I am
> trying to develop my 
> own way of growing poultry, using available
> resources . After a week of 
> such diet babies are happy and healthy. Does anyone
> know, if I am doing 
> something wrong (or right)?
> 
> P.S. They sure prefer comfrey to anything else!
> 
> Arina
> 
>
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> 
> Subject: Fw: Compost, Mycorrhize Alternative to
> Methyl Bromide in Strawbe
> From: "sal" <sals at rain.org>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:18:46 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 6
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Diver" <steved at ncatark.uark.edu>
> To: "sal" <sals at rain.org>
> Cc: <sanet-mg at cals.ncsu.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Compost, Mycorrhize Alternative to
> Methyl Bromide in Strawbe
> 
> 
> > Sal wrote: 
> > > This is not the way I heard it. what happen?
> > > 
> > >
> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/np/mba/jan97/calstraw.htm
> > 
> > Sal noticed that the story on alternatives to
> methyl bromide in 
> > California strawberry production -- as summarized
> in the USDA 
> > article from January 1997 -- don't match with the
> results that have 
> > been generated in following years. 
> > 
> > Essentially, Sal is correct in pointing out a time
> warp between this 
> > early article from USDA, and the truly amazing
> results which 
> > have been generated in proceeeding years.  I was
> there on tour 
> > through the fields near Santa Maria with Frank
> Sances and Elaine 
> > Ingham in '95, and I have followed this story for
> many 
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