[pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 63, Issue 1
Iain Brodie of Falsyde
auchgourishgardens at falsyde.sol.co.uk
Tue Apr 1 14:55:26 EDT 2008
Fritillaria camschatcensis (Linn.) Ker-Gawl.
There is a good-ish stock of this species growing here at Auchgourish
Botanic Garden in northern Scotland which derives from wild provenance seed
in ported from the Russian Far East some time ago. I was sorting through the
material in pots, rather than those planted out in the Gardens per se, just
as recently as on Monday and noticed their beginning to stir but then that's
because they are in the large polytunnel [hoophouse] rather than out of
doors which population will be several weeks latter.
I am not aware they have a smell that's unpleasant during any of the past
seven years which they have been here. There is an 'albino' form of this
species known as treated as 'aurea' but we do not have this here currently.
This taxon is also known as the Black Lily or Black Sarana and is I believe
widely distributed on both sides of the Baring Straights growing in Japan,
Russia, Canada and possibly ? Alaska USA? too.
This Frit is not at all difficult to grow providing gardeners realise it is
a Boreal and north temperate plant needing proper winter cold period rest
and as long as there is 100% adequate drainage it should be no problem at
all. Our plants are growing in a granite derived sand and gravel 'soil' with
a pH of 4.5, plus added humus in the form of composted bark and leaf mould,
topped up periodically. Apart from natural seed spread it also produces
underground bulbs extensions in a rhysomatic fashion, at least here it does.
I would class it as easy but we do have the ideal natural conditions as
well, including low winter temperatures and day length to be found at around
58 degrees north however it certainly grows further south than that and a
wee bit further north too no doubt.
I am unable to send bulbs to either Canada or USA but using PLANT FINDER
anyone in Europe should have no difficulty in obtaining however many bulbs
they needs. The new edition of PF 2008-2009 is literally now just out.
Iain
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> 1. Re: Chionodoxa luciliae (C.J. Teevan)
> 2. Re: Chionodoxa luciliae (Arnold Trachtenberg)
> 3. Chionodoxa etc. (James Waddick)
> 4. Re: black spot on anthers in daffodils (John Grimshaw)
> 5. Re: Fritillaria camschatcensis (C.J. Teevan)
> 6. New American alliums added (Nhu Nguyen)
> 7. Sprekelia formissima (Lauw de Jager)
> 8. Wiki Additions...(My first time)...and many of them!
> (Jacob Knecht)
> 9. Re: Wiki Additions...(My first time)...and many of them!
> (Diane Whitehead)
> 10. Re: New American alliums added (Diane Whitehead)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "C.J. Teevan" <gardenstreet184 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Chionodoxa luciliae
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> I was under the impression C. lucilliae was pink, no?
>
> Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold at nj.rr.com> wrote: Finally remembered to get a
> photo of the early spring bulb.
>
> Grows well in ivy under large beech trees which have not yet leafed out.
>
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Chionodoxa
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> Arnold
> New Jersey
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> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:08:56 -0500
> From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold at nj.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Chionodoxa luciliae
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> CJ;
>
> I did some web searching to try to get the correct name and all the
> sources stated that it comes in blue and pink.
>
> See this;
>
> http://www.pc-nijssen.nl/shop/plaatje.php?code=392
>
> Arnold
> New Jersey
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:13:43 -0500
> From: James Waddick <jwaddick at kc.rr.com>
> Subject: [pbs] Chionodoxa etc.
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> Dear All,
> It seems like Chionodoxa cultivars can come in pink, white
> or blue. Blue seems the most typical, but my favorite is C. forbesii
> 'Pink Giant. It is large (relatively) vigorous and persists.
>
> I've tried as many as I can reasonably get my hands on and
> this definitely performs better than all others.
>
> Still missing 'Blue giant"... one of these days.
>
> ....and by the way, the blue (typical ) Scilla bifolia
> continues to impress for its small (even minute) size. It self sews
> around the garden and can come up thickly enough to put on a show.
> I've tried both pink and white forms, but the blue does best.
>
> And the first daffodils have started: 'Rynveld's Early
> Sensation', ' Early to Rise', 'Gigantic Star' (in a warm spot), a
> couple cyclaminus cvs. and more each day.
>
> And another thanks to the BX (Roy Herold, I think) for the
> Corydalis solida 'Eco Special Pink' putting on a nice little show.
> Quite a flashy hot pink !
>
> I hope everyone is experiencing the start of spring.
>
> Best to all. Jim W.
> --
> Dr. James W. Waddick
> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
> USA
> Ph. 816-746-1949
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:21:31 +0100
> From: "John Grimshaw" <j.grimshaw at virgin.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] black spot on anthers in daffodils
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Ben
>
> I spent some time yesterday looking for black apiculi, but found them only
> in an old clone of a Div 1 YY yellow trumpet daffodil. Presumably aff.
> hispanicus.
>
> The only wild taxon I have here with pure yellow flowers is N.
> perez-chiscanoi and that does not have them.
>
> Very curious about your train of enquiry....
>
> John Grimshaw
>
>
> Dr John M. Grimshaw
> Sycamore Cottage
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> Tel. 01242 870567
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B.J.M. Zonneveld" <B.J.M.Zonneveld at biology.leidenuniv.nl>
>
>
>> Dear Daffodil lovers
>> Let see what power the internet has. I am looking for the
>> following:Could you check of you have any trumpet daffodil with a black
>> spot at the tip of the anthers like they are present in N bujei and
>> hispanicus? and obvallaris?
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:51:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "C.J. Teevan" <gardenstreet184 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Fritillaria camschatcensis
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Friend of mine asked me to find Fritillaria camschatcensis for her. Would
> anyone have any idea where to find this stinky plant ('Outhouse Lily',
> 'Skunk Lily', etc.)?
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:05:16 -0700
> From: "Nhu Nguyen" <xerantheum at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pbs] New American alliums added
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I have split up to the "American Alliums" pages into five separate pages
> and
> added new photos as well as species to each of the pages.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/AmericanAlliums
>
> Nhu Nguyen
> Berkeley, CA - Allium, Calochortus, and Dichelostemma are starting to
> bloom.
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:33:10 +0200
> From: Lauw de Jager <dejager at bulbargence.com>
> Subject: [pbs] Sprekelia formissima
> To: <pablomajete at gmail.com>, Pacific Bulb Society
> <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <C417B1D6.13D5%dejager at bulbargence.com>
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> Pablo,
> I saw your request on the PBS list. I grow a lot of Sprekelia. But just
> lifted the entire stock and selling it off. It flowers very well here,
> but
> suplying 6000 flowers need to be planned at least a year ahead. Please
> contact me for more details.
> Kind regards
>
> --
> Lauw de Jager
> Bulb'Argence
> 30300 FOURQUES France
> T?l 0(33)466 016 519
> emailto: dejager at bulbargence.com
> Site www.bulbargence.com
> GPS Mas: 43.7.12.18 4.53.70.1
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:27:48 -1000
> From: "Jacob Knecht" <jacobknecht at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pbs] Wiki Additions...(My first time)...and many of them!
> To: pbs at lists.ibiblio.org
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> Aloha bulbophiles!
>
> For years now I have been thinking about adding some of my photos to
> the wiki, and I finally took the plunge. For those who are
> interested, the additions I've made are as follows:
>
> I added pictures of Albuca namaquensis a.k.a. circinata and A. spiralis
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Albuca
>
> Ammocharis tinneana (new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ammocharis
>
> Bessera elegans
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Bessera
>
> Brunsvigia herrei (new entry), josephinae, litoralis, marginata,
> namaquana (new entry), orientalis, pulchra (new entry), radulosa,
> striata and a new dwarf species from near Pellaburg (new entry).
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Brunsvigia
>
> Boophone disticha, and various forms of B. haemanthoides
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Boophone
>
> Calostemma seeds...
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Calostemma
>
> Crinum campanulatum
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumSpeciesTwo
>
> Crinum razafindratsiraea & Crinum sp. nova (a new, undescribed species
> from Itremo, Madagascar.)(new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumSpeciesFour
>
> Crossyne flava & guttata (new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Crossyne
>
> Daubenya aurea seedlings
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Daubenya
>
> Eucomis regia
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eucomis
>
> Eucrosia bicolor (new entry) & mirabilis
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eucrosia
>
> Galtonia candicans (new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Galtonia
>
> Griffinia espiritensis subsp. espiritensis (new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Griffinia
>
> Haemanthus amarylloides subsp. toximontanus (new entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/HaemanthusSpeciesOne
>
> Haemanthus deformis, humilis ssp. hirsutus, humilis ssp. humilis
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/HaemanthusSpeciesTwo
>
> Haemanthus namaquensis (new entry), nortieri (new entry), pubescens
> subsp. arenicolus, sanguineus, unifoliatus, and four possible/probable
> undescribed species from Namibia (new entries)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/HaemanthusSpeciesThree
>
> Hippeastrum calyptratum
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Hippeastrum
>
> Merwilla plumbea
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Merwilla
>
> I created a new page for Petronymphe decora
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Petronymphe
>
> I added notes on Polianthes geminiflora and Polianthes howardii (new
> entry)
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Polianthes
>
> Pseudogaltonia clavata
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Pseudogaltonia
>
> Rauhia multiflora
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rauhia
>
> Rhodophiala bifida
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rhodophiala
>
> Sinningia tubiflora
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Sinningia
>
> Stenomesson pearcei
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Stenomesson
>
> Strumaria gemmata
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Strumaria
>
> Urginea maritima
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Urginea
>
> Lastly, although some of you may know me, my participation in the PBS
> discussions hasn't been very frequent over the past, so I assembled a
> contributor's page for anyone who'd like to learn more about me and my
> botanical inclinations.
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/JacobKnecht
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacob Knecht
> --
> see my botanical photography at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/morabeza79/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:20:44 -0700
> From: Diane Whitehead <voltaire at islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions...(My first time)...and many of
> them!
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Jacob,
>
> A spectacular debut!
>
> I am pleased to see a couple of innovations: photos of seeds and
> seedlings, and the addition of measurement in cm where you have used a
> U.S. coin in a photo.
>
> Diane Whitehead
>
>>
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:28:11 -0700
> From: Diane Whitehead <voltaire at islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] New American alliums added
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Nhu,
>
> Thank you for the new alliums and reorganization.
>
> In studying western U.S. alliums, did you find that the ones growing
> on serpentine are accumulators of any of the minerals? I have long
> been curious as to whether all alliums are safely edible, though the
> only one that grows exuberantly enough for me to eat is cernuum.
>
> Diane Whitehead
> Victoria, B.C., Canada
>
>
>
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