[pbs] Iris
Mary Sue Ittner
msittner at mcn.org
Thu May 4 10:35:15 EDT 2006
Dear John, Jim, and John,
Thanks for the responses to my questions. I think all irises are fair game
and of interest to this audience. It's just taking us a long time to get
them added to the wiki.
Jim (Waddick), we made a note about the changed name to Iris domestica on
the Belamcanda page when you told us about it whenever that was. I am
always so appreciative when people announce the information about the
changes to our group and if I'm not too busy at the time make the changes
on the wiki. I'm not sure we are always consistent on the wiki about these
changes. Sometimes we just make a note on the old page and reference that
page from the new name so we don't have to repeat everything and make the
original page too long. This is the quickest way for us. When Jim McKenney
added a picture of Iris dichotoma, he named it that and explained it was
sometimes included in Pardanthopsis and since we just had the one picture
it didn't seem to be a high priority to make a page for Pardanthopsis with
the information that it was now included in Iris. But we could do that I
suppose. We had a private complaint from someone that our wiki was not
always consistent, but Susan and I put hours in on it making changes and
have decided that it will never be entirely consistent because it is a wiki
and wikis are by nature group efforts and will reflect individual
creativity. And we do want to have time to be in our gardens and have lives
too.
Now I am confused about what to do with cultivar names. We have been using
single quotation marks around names that appear to be cultivars. From Jim's
post it sounds like unless they are registered they should be listed with "
instead of ' around the names. This makes my head spin. Since we have no
way of figuring out which names are registered for all the cultivars listed
on the wiki I think in this case we are going to have to be consistent and
just list them all the same. But I am very happy to have Jim's help in
figuring out the correct cultivar names for the Iris selections and will
write him privately when I have a question about them. I probably should
figure out a way to obtain that list too.
I had a suggestion to use the botanical sections for dividing Iris and
then to describe them, but I think except for the Iris experts in our
group, doing this would make those Iris section pages more technical than
most people would find useful and even more important, I've already started
using the more familiar names and am not going to create new wiki pages
and take off the old (eg. change Reticulated Irises to
Hermodactyloides). Describing how they are different and referring to the
botanical names for the subgenus and the sections on the wiki pages I have
already created I agree is a good idea. I'm still looking for a good way to
break up the subgenus Iris (Bearded Irises).
Mary Sue
5/3/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Mary Sue,
>
>Regarding the Iris cristata cultivar names - I tend to use
>what is attached to the plant when I receive it, unless it
>is clearly wrong. However that obviously doesn't validate
>the name I have and use. I suspect that White Angel
>probably should be Eco White Angel and have no reason to
>think Shenandoah Skies is not correct - none of which is
>definitive. Regarding your organization of the bearded
>irises, and by extension, other irises, are you drawing
>the line for inclusion on the wiki anywhere in particular
>or are all irises fair game/of interest to this audience?
>
>I have just had a wonderful flowering of all three section
>Chinenses irises I grow (odesaensis, koreana and
>especially henryi). Seed set on the latter is
>particularly exciting. Also flowering is Iris imbricata,
>from two recent collections in Iran and S Armenia - this
>is another glorious bearded species.
>
>Thanks and all the best,
>
>John
>
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