I got an email from Jim. He is not available on the 9th. But the 8th is just fine. So, all those are are available, let me know. John Ingram jjingram at adelphia.net Floralartistry2000 at yahoo.com groups.yahoo.com/group/FloralArtistryPhotoPages www.floralartistry.org photos.yahoo.com/floralartistry2000