[nafex] Fruit trees -- high water table

Steven Covacci filtertitle at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 02:19:35 EST 2017


Hi Michele,

I think that I'm going to have to do that; shame.. such a nice looking
property, but another will come up.  In fact, I'm looking at two others
that have soils that need no amending; soils characterized as nearly
neutral, deep, well-drained, and prime ag soils.

Regarding Prunus, I want to mention that I've recently observed Prunus
americana growing in a wetland -- looked like it was old and dying; not
sure if it was the age, or the wetfeet - but it's been there for a while,
so it might have been ok for some time.  Wonder if this would make a good
rootstock for wet soils, if one were ok with mowing (keeping up with) the
suckers.

Thank you,
Steve

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 10:53 PM, M Stanton <6ducks at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> I have a place in my yard with a fragipan at a similar depth. It is not a
> good place for fruit trees that need good drainage-- especially Prunus spp.
> A seasonally high water table promotes root rots,  and the ph is an
> additional challenge. I would look elsewhere if you can.
> Michele in Ohio
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 6, 2017, at 1:51 PM, sc <filtertitle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Ive been working at searching for a property.  One I will check out
> next features a soil type which is categorized under the "Rockaway Series".
> > Rocky, sandy, deep, supposedly well-dained soul, but there is a 14" clay
> fragipan a couple of feet down.
> > A seasonally high water table is of special concern; water table during
> is just 18" - 30" under the soil surface during these times.
> > Also, the soil is very acidic (pH of 5).
> > My focus is on growing native persimmon, paw paw, native plums (P.
> americana, P. munsiniana, P. angustifolia) and apples.
> >  However, I would also like to grow Cornelian-cherry, sour cherry and
> apricot.
> > In dealing with the issue of a high water table, the thought I had was
> to clear 9 acres of upland woods (necessary for the creating space for the
> projected orchard) and then dump all of the non valuable lumber and rock on
> 3 acres of the cleared orchard surface then overtop with a few inches of
> top soil/sand.
> > On this 3 acres, i could plant apricot, stone fruits, etc.
> > I think persimmon, hickory, chestnut, paw paw would do ok with a
> seasonally high water table just 2' below the surface?
> > It might not be the right site.  Then there's the issue of pH.  I'd
> Would something like this work?
> >
> > Thank you,Steve NJ
> >
> >
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